Kurt Ubben - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Pilot · #1 23rd March 2012, 05:51

Greetings all,

any image of Kurt Ubben Bf109E-1 with witch painted on side? Did it have it in the moment when he claimed D.XXI? I am afraid that Internet serach did not give any images but plastic kits and simulation screen capture, no archive images...

Cheers

Oberst · #2 24th March 2012, 21:05

I've been searching and searching and drawing a blank. Somebody out there must have a foto of this gem.

ChrisS · #3 24th March 2012, 21:33

I have a photo of Ubbens's Yellow/Brown 13 but not sure if he shot down a Fokker with it. Photo from Sitzkrieg Dr Prien Teil 2 Sitzkeig 01-09-39 to 09-05-40:

Don Pearson · #4 24th March 2012, 21:47

Photo of yellow 13 appears in the JFV series, Vol. 2, page 493, with the witch emblem. The same aircraft, without witch emblem (but with the added "white 5") appears in Vol.3, page 36.

The text, from Google translation, "the witch on a broom, was apparently in most machines use at the beginning of the use of Norway over painted".

That said, the witch would likely have been present in Holland.

Don

Pilot · #5 24th March 2012, 22:12

Image is excellent as well your additional info- thank you!

Pieter H · #6 25th March 2012, 18:35

The problem is Google translate.
So in contrast to what the Google translation suggests, the witch on a broomstick image was removed prior to the campaign in the west.
Pictures of the unit in Norway before they participated in the attack on The Netherlands show the image of the witch already removed and replaced by additional white numbers.
This is then likely the look they had during the attack on Holland and the fights with the D21's.
There is also no photographic evidence of crashlanded a/c with this image from those days.

Regards, Pieter

Pilot · #7 25th March 2012, 22:07

Thanks for additional info Pieter

Pilot · #8 26th March 2012, 07:59

And I completed kit and review it:

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2...1-from-eduard/

Cheers

ChrisS · #9 27th March 2012, 20:05

Hi Srecko

Nicely done, very faithful to the photo! Pieter, I believe is correct, I have no photos of the unit with the witch emblem during the western campaign.

Blessings

Chris

Pilot · #10 28th March 2012, 08:47

Thank you ChrisS

You are all of great help and you did your best and I am grateful for that

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