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Fate of " 1G+DK" from KG27
I know this is a long shot but I recently got a wonderful photo of a HE111 from KG27 with the following codes " 1G+DK" . The following markings are painted black , 1,G and K and the "D" appears to be in a lighter colour ( green) . I do not have a Werks number and I know these codes could be reissued due to losses but does anybody have any information on a HE111 with these codes , many thanks.
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Re: Fate of " 1G+DK" from KG27
schnellmeyer,
You probably have a photo of He111P-2, Poss W.Nr.5665, 1G+DK of 2./KG27. This was shot down (riddled with bullet holes) on May 10, 1940 at La Taillette near Notre-Dame D' Amour E of St-Amand-Les-Eaux France. Pilot was Oblt Gerhard Braunschweig, POW-WIA. I've got images of five different views of this a/c after it was shot down in our EoE DB, including on site, and later in French a salvage yard. Our EoE Luft Loss DB: "Engaged by Hurricanes between Douai and Valenciennes during sortie to attack Hesdigneul and possibly that claimed by F/O Gore of No.607 Squadron. Also claimed by AA defences (216 Batt. 406 DCA). Belly-landed at ‘La Taillette’, near Notre-Dame-d’Amour, east of Saint-Amand-les-Eaux (France) 4.45 a.m. BF Uffz Hermann Glindemann killed. BM Fw Friedrich Honig baled out and captured wounded, FF Oberlt Gerhard Braunschweig captured wounded, and HB Uffz Philipp Nashan captured unhurt – all later released. Aircraft 1G+DK 100% write-off.” If your photo is not this a/c, but it's replacement, or one prior to it being shot down, let me know, as this is most likely what you're talking about. Regards, Larry Hickey EoE Project Coordinator |
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Re: Fate of " 1G+DK" from KG27
Hi Larry , many thanks for your reply . My photo of " 1G+DK" shows it at a airfield with three Luftwaffe Officers and five Nco 's sitting on the grass and possibly map reading . I believe this plane served in 2./KG27 .
With this photo there was also some photos of " 1G+EK" shown in flight , this plane served in 2./KG27 and was later lost off the southwest coast of Ireland . |
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Re: Fate of " 1G+DK" from KG27
How do you know it was THE one lost off Ireland? As you say there were many iterations of 1G+EK
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Re: Fate of " 1G+DK" from KG27
I got the photos from the family of Ofw. Toni Boehner who was on " 1G+EK" when it was lost off Ireland and these photos were taken shortly before the crash . Toni has also written on these photos showing his position on "1G+EK" , when I enlarged the photos you can clearly make him out out as the photos are of a very high quality , I guess this information is good enough to state that this HE11 is the one that was lost off the Irish coast . Just to add a little info , Toni's body was the only one recovered from this crash and he is now buried in the German Military Graveyard in Glencree , Co.Wicklow . His family will travel over from Germany later this year to visit his grave and pay their respects .
In total I have over thirty photos from Toni's wartime photo album . |
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Re: Fate of " 1G+DK" from KG27
Presume you mean days/weeks before the loss?! Must have been one hell of a lens-presumably PK-photo?
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Re: Fate of " 1G+DK" from KG27
Yes , that is right Chris . The photos was taken only a few weeks before the loss of "1G+EK" . The photo was taken from another HE111 and from the angle I believe from the upper rear gunners position . Not sure if it was a PK photo but who ever took it did a super job . The photo will be published in our upcoming book .
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Re: Fate of " 1G+DK" from KG27
If I sound sceptical, it is with good reason, so perhaps you could examine that "super job" picture of the 1G+EK and maybe it shows a W.Nr. on the fin and possibly also identify the type of He111 ( ie the mark). Roche shows at least four 1G+EK listed of various types.It would be helpful.
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Re: Fate of " 1G+DK" from KG27
Tony , from the other material and photos I have from Toni Boehner's family I am pretty sure I have the right plane but like you rightly said I am not 100% sure . However , Toni has clearly marked some of the photos with arrows showing himself in the glass nose of the HE111 . It would be unlikely that he flew in two HE111 that bore the same codes ! I believe replacement codes were only issued after losses . Are there other photos out there showing HE111's with the codes 1G+EK ?
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Re: Fate of " 1G+DK" from KG27
You are "pretty sure" "I am not 100% sure" confusing?
Can you tell us the type of He111 (the 1G+EK) and is there a W.Nr visible on that great picture you say you have.If visible then we can be certain if it is the Heinkel lost off Ireland. |
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