History of Fw 190 G-3 160896

[Roger Gaemperle]

Hello,

Does anybody have any information about Fw 190 G-3 160896? I couldn't find anything more than that 160896 was a G-3. If there is no information about 160896 there might be some info about Fw 190s that with WkNr close to 160896?

Thanks!

Regards
Roger Gaemperle

[Roger Gaemperle]

PS: Here is the reason why I asked about this Fw 190: a control stick apparently taken from WkNr 160896.

I would be very grateful for any information about this particular aircraft as it makes the stick even more interesting from a historical point of view.

Regards
Roger Gaemperle

[RT]

Why not a 109G ??

[Roger Gaemperle]

Hello RT

Because the Me 109 G had a KG13A control stick. The Fw 190 had a KG13B and in addition the electrical wiring designation of the control stick cable connection was V60 for the Fw 190 and V23 for the Me 109 G. On this stick there is a V60 on the other side which clearly identifies it as a Fw 190 stick.

Regards
Roger Gaemperle

[John Beaman]

Originally Posted by Roger Gaemperle

Hello,

Does anybody have any information about Fw 190 G-3 160896? I couldn't find anything more than that 160896 was a G-3. If there is no information about 160896 there might be some info about Fw 190s that with WkNr close to 160896?

Thanks!

Regards
Roger Gaemperle

Closest I have are 878 lost with SKG 10 in July '44 and 918 lost with NSGr 20 in Sep '44.

[Roger Gaemperle]

Hello John,

Thanks a lot for the information! It seems likely that 160896 belonged to one of these two units.

Is it possible to find out anything about 160896 or does it appear only on paper if it had e.g. an accident or similar? Is there anybody who is working on a Fw 190 WkNr database that might have some more information?

Thanks!
Roger

[Roger Gaemperle]

Hello,

I have found another WkNr which is close to the one I am looking for:

WkNr 160831 Fw 190 G-3 Uffz Streletzki 1./SKG10 killed on 6 June 1944 at La-Neuve-Lyre/Conches.

Regards
Roger Gaemperle

[Roger Gaemperle]

The stick must have been taken from a captured Fw 190 G-3, perhaps in Italy where SKG10 operated in 1943. I found the following information:

FW 190G-3 White K of 7./SKG 10 was captured at Gela, Sicily in 1943

Does anybody have information about this particular Fw 190 G-3? It would be the needle in the haystack, but there is a small chance that this was 160896.

Regards
Roger Gaemperle

[Andrew Arthy]

Hi,

'White K + ' captured at Gela is not your aircraft, because it was actually an FW 190 A-5, W.Nr 1339.

> The stick must have been taken from a captured Fw 190 G-3, perhaps
> in Italy where SKG10 operated in 1943.

W.Nr 160 896 was from later in the war. At the earliest it was built in December 1943. I say this because W.Nr 160 866 was built in late-December 1943.

The most likely unit would be I./S.K.G. 10 (which was later known as III./K.G. 51 and N.S.Gr. 20). However, there are lots of other possibilities. The following units all operated the FW 190 G-3:

Stab S.G. 1, II./S.G. 1, III./S.G. 1, II./S.G. 2, Stab S.G. 4, I./S.G. 4, II./S.G. 4, Stab S.G. 10, I./S.G. 10, II./S.G. 10, I./S.G. 77, II./S.G. 77, I./S.G. 151, IV./S.G. 151, I./S.G. 152, I./S.K.G. 10, II./S.K.G. 10, III./S.K.G. 10, IV./S.K.G. 10, N.S.Gr. 20, III./K.G. 51, Erg.Staffel (Nacht)/S.K.G. 10, plus a couple of fighter units.

The closest FW 190 G-3s I know of are the same as previously mentioned, W.Nr 160 878, 160 914 and 160 918.


Cheers,
Andrew A.

[Roger Gaemperle]

Hello Andrew,

Thanks a lot for the information regarding the probably production timeframe and the other possible units. I do hope that sooner or later some information will appear in a document or even as photographic evidence.

Is there a good book about I./S.K.G. 10, III./K.G. 51 and/or N.S.Gr. 20?

Kind regards
Roger