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Luftwaffe B-26B-1-MA (41-17790)-where is it?
I recently attended a B-26 marauder reunion in Akron Ohio last week. The MAPS museum is restoring a B-26 Marauder. There were 11 1st generation Marauder men there with the oldest being Brig Gen. Henry Newcomer who is 98 years old.
I got to display my model B-26 right next to the full scale B26. I got to know the crew chief Dave Pawski who has spend 18 years restoring the B26. He has model of the German Luftwaffe B-26B-1-MA plane. Does anyone know what ever happened to the B-26B -1-MA that landed on the Island of Noord-Beveland in the Netherlands on Oct 3, 1942 .The Marauder was flown by the Germans from Noord-Beveland to Gilze-Rijen Air Base with German- built VDM three- blade propellers. It is said that the plane was evaluated with the Test and Experimental Center of The Luftwaffe during June 1943 at Rechlin and Larz Air bases. thanks for any information that you can give |
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Re: Luftwaffe B-26B-1-MA (41-17790)-where is it?
Hello,
From "Strangers in a Strange Land" vol 1 ref to the Luftwaffe's B-26B suggests that it ceased to be referenced shortly after the 2nd November 1943 exhibitionand is believed to have either been destroyed on a test flight or during an Allied bombing raid. Alex |
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Re: Luftwaffe B-26B-1-MA (41-17790)-where is it?
Alex
thanks for the info wonder if there is anyone alive who may have been there in 1943 when they evaluated the B26? |
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Re: Luftwaffe B-26B-1-MA (41-17790)-where is it?
Photo of this B26
Credit Mike Murphy on LEMB here http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...?showtopic=386 pic 1 'Warbird Tech Series volume 29 - Martin B 26 Marauder' pic 2 There are other pictures in this thread on the B26 still in US colours. The following images are from the collection of Jan van den Heuvel. Last edited by Snautzer; 29th November 2014 at 10:59. |
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Re: Luftwaffe B-26B-1-MA (41-17790)-where is it?
Flying this B26: An account by in the book Hans Werner Lerche, Luftwaffe Test pilot, flying the captured allied aircraft of ww2 pg 43-44
Meanwhile, there was again something better on the agenda, a captured Martin Marauder. The Martin B-26, powered by two Double Wasp R-2800 radial engines, was a fast medium bomber with a maximum speed of about 310 mph at 13,000 feet altitude. A mid-wing monoplane with an aerodynamically faultless fuselage, the aircraft had a fast and racy look about it even from the outside. Its long range also made it suitable for direct ferry flights across the Atlantic. But the B-26 also had its negative points. With its small wing area and a gross weight of some 30,000 lb (later increased to over 38.000 Ih), the load per square foot of the wing area was relatively high, and the high take-off and landing speeds caused so many bad accidents that this aircraft at first had a poor reputation amongst the crews and was known as the 'Widow Maker'. Its other nickname of the Tlying Prostitute' was unknown to me when I became intimate with the Marauder for the first time. Apart from other bad characteristics, malicious tongues also asserted that the Marauder's landing speed was higher than its cruising speed. Yet all this did not prevent experienced crews from appreciating the combat value of the B-26 on account of its high speed and strong armament, and using it accordingly. That much was known to us - and it was to be expected that the small grass field at Rechlin would not be abundant enough for this `hot' aircraft. Our share of excitement with the Marauder was still to come. Perhaps the adjustment of the propellers was not set correctly, or perhaps someone had already tinkered about with them. But what I experienced on my first take-off in this strange aircraft surpassed all expectations! Naturally, based on my experiences with the Liberator (of which later) I had tried to determine the correct centre of gravity for take-off; I could also expect that the nose-wheel would at least prevent any unpleasant surprises, such as a sudden swing during the take-off. Of course, before the Start the engines were carefully and briefly run up and then switched off again, and the speed governors tested. The direction for take-off was along one side of the Schropp'schen mountain - although the description `mountain' was slightly exaggerated; it was a ridiculous little rise topped by a radio station. I had placed the Marauder as far as possible behind the air traffic control van in order to make full use of the available length of the field. Then the usual procedure: full on the brakes, full throttle, and then brakes off and away! At first the engines ran perfectly and the aircraft accelerated well, pushing my back into the seat. lt may have been that the automatic propeller regulator did not function properly, letting the engines overspeed before reducing the revs, and then unevenly. All at once the starboard engine began losing power and the Marauder showed a strong tendency to swing despite the nosewheel undercarriage. By that time it was already too late for me to cut the throttles as the aircraft was going too fast to stop, but on the other hand not fast enough to become airborne. Nevertheless, although the engines were running with far too few revs I managed to lift the Marauder just off the ground shortly before reaching the airlfeld boundary. As soon as I could feel that the aircraft was actually flying and had not just been 'hauled up', I ordered the flight engineer to raise the undercarriage since I wanted to avoid the risk of touching the ground with the wheels down. In this manner we floated past the radio station on the right at a height of some 3-6 feet. Since there was no immediate danger for our aircraft in the shape of trees or other obstacles, I thought it would be better to stay dose to the ground and wait to see whether the engines would pick up enough revs to allow us to climb, or whether I had to cut the throttles and risk a crash landing. But for my colleagues observing this take-off from the other side of the field everything looked much more hair raising. They had heard the brief overspeeding of the engines, the subsequent regulation of revs and the irregularities in the engine running, and then seen the Marauder speeding towards the Schropp'schen mountain just skimming the ground. In addition to that the B-26 raised a cloud of dust as it raced low over tilled land, like the lift turbulent produced in a wind tunnel, until the spectators could no longer see the aircraft. As a result, quite used to untoward happenings at Rechlin, they awaited the seemingly inevitable crash and subsequent blast of flames and mushrooming smoke. However, the propeller speed control gradually began to function smoothly and I succeeded in commencing a climb after raising the landing flaps. Perhaps the lubricating oil had been too thick and prevented correct regulation of the propellers. Be that as it may, I am sure that my decision to stay dose to the ground at low speed had been correct; it was also best in case of a possible crash landing. My colleagues later confirmed that they had not given much for my chances and the aircraft at that moment! After the engines, or rather their propeller adjustment, had been reminded of their duty, I got to know the B-26 as a quite passable aircraft. But it was a piece of equipment that had to be handled with great sensitivity. On a longer (light, I then became good friends with the Marauder and the propeller pitch control now functioned properly. This was one of the typical instances when a report on faults could only be prepared when everything had gone well in the end. If the take-off had gone completely wrong, no-one would have known that the cause was nothing more serious than the hydraulic oil which had probably become too thick. Even today, such difficulties still arise, despite radio-telephone communications, as in moments of great danger the pilot has more important things to do than chatter. This can only be overcome by the direct radio transmission not only of the data indicated on the control instruments, bot also the critical values regarding, for instance, strength and rigidity which cannot be reconstructed after a crash, as is indeed usual practice during test flying today. I can imagine that the high wing loading of the Marauder had caused difficulties similar to those experienced at the beginning with our Ju 88, whose wing area also had to be increased for single-engined flight. With raised flaps and undercarriage, the Ju 88 was extremely pleasant to fly. However, with lowered flaps and undercarriage, the pilot of the Marauder had to be careful when coming in to land due to the high sinking rate, although as long as both engines were running the landing approach with open throttles and the landing itself with the nose-wheel undercarriage an a long run-way presented no problems. Anyway, after my experiences during the first take-off in the Marauder, I preferred the long concrete runway at Lärz, our second base, for the landing and further evaluation flights. And there everything went smoothly. |
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Re: Luftwaffe B-26B-1-MA (41-17790)-where is it?
wow!!
what a history this is- thanks for sharing Dave Pawski who is restoring th B26 is always searching for parts for the reconstruction. He is looking for a nose cone now. Who knows if there are individuals out there who might have pieces (flight instrument gauges, etc. ) that can add to the reconstruction again thanks Ron |
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Re: Luftwaffe B-26B-1-MA (41-17790)-where is it?
Well, that B-26B was recaptured in 1945. Might as well ask the RAF what they did with it.
http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNe...d/394/WTF.aspx |
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Re: Luftwaffe B-26B-1-MA (41-17790)-where is it?
Hi Ed
A picture might be said to be worth a thousand words but sometimes they do not tell the whole story! The picture from the Canadian site is actually not from the late or post war period. However, it shows a Luftwaffe mechanic during repairs on the B-26 amongst the dunes of Noord Beveland prior to being flown back to German territory. As far as I know it was only test-flown at the Rechlin Test Centre and exhibited there a couple of times. Nothing else is known after this period so was either not flown again due to technical issues or destroyed/scrapped at some unknown date. Regards Tom |
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Re: Luftwaffe B-26B-1-MA (41-17790)-where is it?
Ok, Thanks. Did notice it might be on a barge.
So this simply lied! Ed |
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Re: Luftwaffe B-26B-1-MA (41-17790)-where is it?
there are people still alive today in our B26 group that participated in scraping/ blowing up all the B26s after the war ended in Germany. Wonder if there are people still alive from Rechlin Test Centre who remember the B26 and what might have happened to it-- maybe a mechanic
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