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Old 14th May 2006, 02:00
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Pearl Harbor

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Old 14th May 2006, 02:59
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Re: Pearl Harbor

I don't know about the photo of the wrecked P-40s, but the so-called "unpublished" photo of the ships appears in just about every book published about Pearl Harbor - it shows USS Pennsylvania in Drydock No. 1, with USS Cassin on the right and USS Downes on the left in front of the battleship. Both destroyers were rebuilt and returned to service in 1943, while the Pennsy was only lightly damaged and was back in action by early 1942.
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Old 16th May 2006, 16:28
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Re: Pearl Harbor

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Aloha All,
We are all guilty. We say 'unpublished' when 'we' have not seen the photo.

The National Park Service is a tenant organization that operates the USS Arizona Memorial Visitor's Center for the US Navy. Some five years after the National Park Service ranger "historian" arrived at his post there, he also said "unpublished" about a photo. I cited the small publication...and he countered that THAT was so small a publication.

"Unpublished" means never having had a screen shot (scan) made of the photo and that screen shot never having been utilized for printing.

There ARE some unpublished "Pearl Harbor Attack" photos, yet these are coming to light by a determined archivist, with high clearance, doing the original research. While "anything WWII" (with rare exception) was officially declassified by President Nixon, an archivist must READ all pages of each document (of several billion documents in storage) to assure that the document contains nothing about A-Bomb manufacture, or other restricted topics, prior to each page being given the rubber stamp "Declassified".

The recent retirement of an archivist, focused on "Pearl Harbor" for the past thirty years, leaves a void. The 2006 BBC documentary "Japan's War in Colour (IIRC about the title)" has "Pearl Harbor" COLOR film footage located by this archivist...color footage made by Photographer's Mate Clyde Daugherty during the attack, color made of the midget sub (albeit "flopped" in the documentary), and color of George Welch looking over a Japanese flight suit from a D3A shot down by Ken Taylor.

We are all "guilty" of such sins...
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Old 16th May 2006, 20:14
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Re: Pearl Harbor

I do not know about the P-40s, either, but the Pennsylvania shot with the two destroyers appeared in Life Magazine's big volume on the second WW as early as 1950. I have a copy.
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Old 16th May 2006, 21:59
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I do not know about the P-40s, either, but the Pennsylvania shot with the two destroyers appeared in Life Magazine's big volume on the second WW as early as 1950. I have a copy.
Aloha John,
LONG TIME, no hear!
You memory of LIFE is correct...the Dry Dock One photographer was (late) Photographer Mate First Class Harold Fawcett...he also took the photos often seen at Fort Kamehameha crash of AI-154. The Wheeler photo was made by Sgt Joe K Harding. Both photos have been published.
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