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Old 30th March 2016, 12:18
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Hi gents,

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeug...sAAOSwAvJW-mUf
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeug...3D231894841063
and already sold ...
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeug...p2047675.l2557

So; Hugo Frey machine. But what about black undersides? What about emblem? And, if possible, Nickname?

Any comment is welcome, Thank you in advance.

Regards, Franck.
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Old 30th March 2016, 14:33
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Isn't this machine one shared between III./JG 11 and JG 301 for Zahme Sau night hunting?

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My comment is the white or yellow tail appears to be a replacement since it bears no camouflage.





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My comment is the white or yellow tail appears to be a replacement since it bears no camouflage.

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It's white and designates a Kommodore or Kommandeur, a marking introduced for Reich defence units in February 1944. See: http://www.ghostbombers.com/markings/bands1.html
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Thank you, Nick, for the additional information.







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Old 30th March 2016, 19:47
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Hi there Gang,

Photographic evidence does show white tailed Staffelkapitän and Gruppenkommandeur machines since Summer 1943 as evidenced here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7640119878915/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7640119878915/

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Hi there Gang,

Photographic evidence does show white tailed Staffelkapitän and Gruppenkommandeur machines since Summer 1943 as evidenced here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7640119878915/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7640119878915/

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Thanks. I suspect that many of the orders issued about markings were just to standardise something that was already being done.
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You're welcome Nick !

After checking again, one of the "late" white tails can be seen here, a 7./JG 27 machine, photographed on 2 December 1943.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7640109612456/

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Hi Gents,

All details concerning white tails can be read in JFV Teil 10.II. page 39 ...
Any news concerning the emblem ?
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