He 111 from KG 55 shot down

[landser88]

Hello,

on 28th May 1943 was a He 111 from 14./KG 55 (FF Mitrach Kurt) shot down on the south front in Ukraine.
Does anybody know the Verbandkennzeichen? G1+??

With regards

Miro

[G.R.Morrison]

He 111H-16 WNr.8318, G1+BS
FF Ofw. Kurt Mitratsch, B Ogefr. Hans Preickechak, Bf Uffz. Ernst Borchardt, Bm Gefr. Max Ziebolz & Bs Ogefr. Hubert Gasch MIA 28.May 1943 on a mission to the Krapotkin railroad station.

Reference: Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (microfilm roll #10)-Vol.18

Note variation in spelling of pilot's name (Mitrach / Mitratsch), perhaps Matti can clarify the discrepancy.

GRM

[Matti Salonen]

Correct names should be:
Mitrach, Preukschat, Borchert, Zieboltz and Gasch.

Matti

[landser88]

Thanks to all.

Happy New Year!

[landser88]

Hello again,

one more question.

On 11th June 1943 was shot down one antother He 111 from the 14. (Eis.) Staffel.
Area Kantsmirowsky-Rossosch.
Crew members:
Oblt Diesselhorst Friedrich
Uffz Hartl Josef
Uffz Britsch Bruno
Uffz Jung Willi
Uffz Klaus Werner

Please, I need the Verbandkennzeinen and eventually also the Werknummer.

Miro

[Matti Salonen]

160424, G1+NY

Matti

[steve sheridan]

Morning Matti, could you help with similar information for a loss on 16.6.43.
Seeking identity of Mjr.Johannes Lorenz aircraft lost Seschtschinskaja area.
Regards,
Steve.

[Matti Salonen]

8182, G1+NP

Matti

[steve sheridan]

Fabulous, thanks very much Matti.
Kindest regs,
Steve.

[Paul Thompson]

Thank you, gentlemen, always a pleasure to see such data on the forum!

I have provided the probable modern place names for the locations concerned below, as a reference for all those interested.

Originally Posted by G.R.Morrison

He 111H-16 WNr.8318, G1+BS
FF Ofw. Kurt Mitratsch, B Ogefr. Hans Preickechak, Bf Uffz. Ernst Borchardt, Bm Gefr. Max Ziebolz & Bs Ogefr. Hubert Gasch MIA 28.May 1943 on a mission to the Krapotkin railroad station.

Кропо́ткин (english: Kropotkin) coordinates 45°26′N 40°34′E in Krasnodar Krai, Russia

Originally Posted by landser88

On 11th June 1943 was shot down one antother He 111 from the 14. (Eis.) Staffel.
Area Kantsmirowsky-Rossosch.

Кантеми́ровка (english: Kantemirovka) coordinates 49°41′N 39°51′E in Voronezh Oblast, Russia

Ро́ссошь (english: Rossosh) coordinates 50°12′N 39°33′E in Voronezh Oblast, Russia

Originally Posted by steve sheridan

Morning Matti, could you help with similar information for a loss on 16.6.43.
Seeking identity of Mjr.Johannes Lorenz aircraft lost Seschtschinskaja area.

Се́ща (english: Sescha) coordinates 53°43′N 33°19′E in Bryansk Oblast, Russia

A question about the last of these losses. Since the partisan group on Seschinskaya airfield began to place magnetic mines on German aircraft around this time, is it possible that Major Lorenz's crew was lost to such a mine? Of course, a crash near the airfield could have been caused by any number of reasons, and the hypothesis can be rejected if the infromation in Doug and Larry's database is true. They wrote the following: "16.06.43 Maj., in Gruppenstab II./KG 55, MIA – in He 111 H overdue on a ferry flight to Seshchinskaya on the central sector of the Eastern Front."

Regards,

Paul