Russian loss list - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

ironrat · #1 23rd May 2006, 18:30

Is there a way to find somwhere or access russian loss lists? I'm interested by the VIII/1944-XI/1944 periad and the 2nd and 11the Guards Divisions of the 16th Air Army.

Ironrat

NBE1942 · #2 24th May 2006, 07:33

Only in TsAMO. BTW, if you are talking about fighter divisions, then 2 GIAD and 11 GIAD never entered 16 VA...

ironrat · #3 25th May 2006, 08:37

To my knowledge they were since september 1944.

Ironrat

NBE1942 · #4 25th May 2006, 11:31

2 GIAD was a PVO division. It was never part of any air army during GPW, exept on august-september 1942 when it was operationally assigned to 8 VA.
11 GIAD was organically assigned to 17 VA. In the middle of 1944 it appeared in STAVKA reserve, and from January 1, 1945 in the 2 VA.

ironrat · #5 26th May 2006, 18:20

Could you please give me the sources.
Ironrat

PS Unles I'm mistaken in the OOB givent at http://www.victory.mil.ru/war/oob/bs_1945.1.01.html both 2 gIAD and 11 GIAD are part of the 16VA.

Andy Fletcher · #6 26th May 2006, 23:34

Hi Ironrat

2, 11 гв. шад = 2 GvShAD, 11 GvShAD

иад = IAD

As of 01Jan45 11 GvIAD was subordinate to 2 VA as NBE1942 says and is shown in the link you provided.

Regards

Andy Fletcher

konev2006 · #7 24th June 2006, 19:30

Gentlemen,

Here's what I have from two Russian hard copy sources:
Source 1: Boevoi Sostav Sovetskii Armii, Chast V 1945
Source 2: Deictvuyuschaya Armiya

2nd Guards Stalingrad Order of Suvorov Fighter Aviation Division PVO was assigned to 12th PVO Corps of the Southwestern PVO Front on 1 January 1945 with the following Regiments:
38th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment
83rd Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment
84th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment
822nd Fighter Aviation Regiment
933rd Fighter Aviation Regiment
It was in the Operational Army and providing Air Defense coverage over the 2nd Ukrainian Front

11th Guards Dnepropetrovsk Red Banner Order of Bogdan Khmel'nitskii Fighter Avisation Division was assigned to the 2nd Air Army of the 1st Ukrainian Front. Since it was assigned directly to the Air Army HQ, it was probably probably providing tactical air defense coverage of the Front. Although not confirmed, it had the following units:
5th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment
106th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment
107th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment

regards,

konev

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