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Old 18th November 2006, 17:56
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Please help with 190s shot down (or damaged)

24.03.43 Fw190 A-5 (15)2587 7 + lost in IV.10./Jg-54. Oblt. Keller Paul
Was it near Leningrad? If yes - How it happened?

18.06.43 Were there any damaged 190s with yellow noses or shot down at this day in the Leningrad area?

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Old 18th November 2006, 20:35
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Re: Please help with 190s shot down (or damaged)

18/6/43 Fw190A-5 (150)1312 30% Fl. Pl. Siwerskaja
18/6/43 Fw190A-5 (15)2644 30% nordö. Ssologulowka
18/6/43 Fw190A-5 410208 VO+LA ? 50% nördl. Siwerskaja
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Old 18th November 2006, 21:49
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Re: Please help with 190s shot down (or damaged)

Any of those in combat with Kittyhawks?
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Old 20th November 2006, 13:14
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Re: Please help with 190s shot down (or damaged)

240343- fw190a-5 2585, Keller Paul, crashed due to Flak, location Ashford ???..

Losses on 180643 all listed with "forcedlanding techn. failure"

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Old 20th November 2006, 15:47
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Re: Please help with 190s shot down (or damaged)

Hi.

I do not think Keller was anywere near Leningrad, as he probably took off from St.Omer-Wizernes on a fighter-bomber sortie against England. The 10.(Jabo)/JG 54 was the 10.(Jabo)/J.G.26 after renaming, and went on to become part of S.K.G.10 in April 1943 (so it only existed for about 2 months).

Loss record here:

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=111674

The aircraft lost by JG 54 on 18.06.43 was the following according to my list:

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=111677

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=111678

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=111679

None of these seems to be directly linked to an aerial combat.

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Old 20th November 2006, 16:17
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Keller was definitely killed in action in the west (see my book 'Tip & Run') and as Andreas says, elements of JG 26 and JG 54 switched designations
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Keller was definitely killed in action in the west (see my book 'Tip & Run') and as Andreas says, elements of JG 26 and JG 54 switched designations
Ok, Thanks!
My list is lacking area of crash, so its all getting clearer now.
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Old 20th November 2006, 20:46
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From where come from the VO+LA Mark ?? a picture ???

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