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Old 3rd April 2012, 15:47
Tony Kearns Tony Kearns is offline
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Identity of Polish 315Sqn badge

Could anyone please identify the attached badge as seen on Spitfire V BL959 PK-T 315 Sqn RAF.
Apologies for the poor quality, really a longshot but perhaps our Polish friends might know.
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Old 4th April 2012, 11:28
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Re: Identity of Polish 315Sqn badge

No idea what it is, I have never seen it in any photos. The only photo of BL959 PK-T I know in service with 315 Squadron (not "Squadron RAF", it was a Polish Air Force unit) shows starboard side of the aeroplane and was taken from behind. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it was no emblem, but chipping paint. There are photos of other 315 Sqn Spitfires at about the time where the finish in cockpit area was in very bad condition.
It is good to know, though, that the legendary photo(s) of BL959 in Ireland do exist as I have been looking for these for a long time, in vain so far.
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Old 4th April 2012, 19:49
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Re: Identity of Polish 315Sqn badge

Thank you VT, my impression is that it was a Disney type cartoon character. Certainly not the units badge.

Thanks also for the clarification on the Polish 315 Squadron.
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Old 4th April 2012, 21:13
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Re: Identity of Polish 315Sqn badge

I think I agree that it looks as if it is a cartoon/noseart. I am suddenly alarmed that I cannot find my copy of "Zumbach's Donalds" is there a possibility, VoyTech, that BL959 is linked to Zumbach?

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Old 5th April 2012, 11:17
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Re: Identity of Polish 315Sqn badge

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my impression is that it was a Disney type cartoon character.
There were Spitfires in 315 Squadron with Disney dwarfs (dwarves?), so this could be another one.

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is there a possibility, VoyTech, that BL959 is linked to Zumbach?
No.
But he was not the only one to have Donald Duck on his aeroplane.
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Old 7th April 2012, 01:12
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Re: Identity of Polish 315Sqn badge

Thanks VoyTech and Steve B for your input any further information that may arise, gratefully received.
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Old 26th December 2013, 03:18
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I think I agree that it looks as if it is a cartoon/noseart. I am suddenly alarmed that I cannot find my copy of "Zumbach's Donalds" is there a possibility, VoyTech, that BL959 is linked to Zumbach?

Steve
- here is Polish pilot: Jan Eugeniusz Ludwig Zumbach :

http://reibert.info/attachments/jan-zumbach-jpg.476591/

http://img.archive.is/t5giS/34bb0bd0...049e99de6f.jpg

http://reibert.info/attachments/zumbach3-jpg.476592/

http://reibert.info/attachments/2bw-jpg.476593/

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTnUKkIum2g#t=18

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Northolt, September 1942
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...pitfire/14.jpg

315 Squadron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._315...ghter_Squadron
http://www.robbiereid.co.uk/images/diary/plane1.jpg
http://www.polishsquadronsremembered...5/44/set3.html


303 Polish Fighter Squadron ("Kościuszko")

Emblem:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._303...ghter_Squadron

http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/birds/spitfire/NO8.jpg

http://www.polishforums.com/archives...-emblem-22039/


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Old 26th December 2013, 13:46
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Re: Identity of Polish 315Sqn badge

If it's a Disney character, it could be Jiminy Cricket.

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...inyCricket.jpg
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Old 26th December 2013, 15:45
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Re: Identity of Polish 315Sqn badge

Hi Tony

My instant reaction when I saw the image that it was the cartoon version of the Desert Rats Icon!

Could it been the personal badge of one of the Polish pilots who had flown in the Desert with Skalski's unit?

Or possibly its an after affect of too much booze over Christmas!!

Cheers
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Old 26th December 2013, 17:23
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Re: Identity of Polish 315Sqn badge

Hello Kris, Revi16 and Brian many thanks for your input.
We believe that the pilot Boleslaw Sawiak was known in the squadron as “Happy” . One of the dwarfs or should I be more PC and say “one of the vertically challenged mining engineers” in the Disney Cartoon “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs” was known as Happy. We have based the profile of the aircraft as such and believe it is correct. I found a reference to a “comical mascot painted on the forward fuselage above the Polish Flag in the aircraft salvage report.
Brian, too much booze over the Christmas ?, NEVER! I hope that all is well in Suffolk after the bad storms.
Best wishes to all for 2014.
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