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Old 12th July 2007, 19:29
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Question LnVRgt?

Hi,

I'm curious to know if informations are disposable, somewhere, about the following Luftwaffe unit: LnVRgt Köthen. I'm somewhat perpexed by this regiment...
What kind of unit was it? In which type of mission was it implicated?
Were its pilots flying in single engine or multi-engines aircrafts?
Which type of plane was in strengh with LnVRgt Köthen? Any photos available?
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Old 14th July 2007, 17:42
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Re: LnVRgt?

Hi,
LnVRgt is in full name the Luftnachrichten Schul- und Versuchs-Regiment which II. Abteilung (renamed in August 1938 to the Luftnachrichten Abteilung 100) was a basic of the later known Kampfgruppe 100/Kampfgeschwader 100 using a system for precise bombing Gerät X. The unit based at Köthen from January 1937 and used at the latest from January 1938 Ju 52/3meo (7. Kompanie) and later He 111P/H (8. Kompanie) together with 2 Do 17U.

Source: the book Kampfgeschwader 100 by Ulf Balke


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Old 15th July 2007, 15:05
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Re: LnVRgt?

Tks a lot mrtn001!

Regarding to your precisions, I wonder if the LnVrgt Köthen's mission was training board-transmitters or developing and testing new radio-transmission equipment's?
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Old 15th July 2007, 16:46
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Re: LnVRgt?

Parabellum,

Further to Martin's post, see if you can get hold of a copy of Ken Wakefield's "The First Pathfinders". This book deals with KGr 100 from it's infancy at Köthen.

In the book, Luftnachrichten Schul- und Versuchs-Regiment is described as a wireless operators training school and experimental establishment - included in the unit were several flying Kompanien charged with conducting airborne trials.

Both 7 and 8 Kompanie were initially involved with the development of long-range W/T communications and radio direction finding.

Wakefield asserts that 7 and 8 Kompanien were used to form the basis of LnAbt 100.
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Old 15th July 2007, 18:51
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Re: LnVRgt?

Nice, Andy!
So, I was really near of the attibutes of LnVrgt Köthen..., t'was in same time a radio-operators training school and a test unit for aiming materials.
Many tks to you, Martin and Andy.
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Old 16th July 2007, 07:02
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Re: LnVRgt?

Hallo Andy,
is it possible to please bring here every information concerning the mentioned Do 17U's published in Wakefield's book (if some are there)? I'd like to confront it with or complete other sources of information.

Thank you much in advance
Martin

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Parabellum,

Further to Martin's post, see if you can get hold of a copy of Ken Wakefield's "The First Pathfinders". This book deals with KGr 100 from it's infancy at Köthen.

In the book, Luftnachrichten Schul- und Versuchs-Regiment is described as a wireless operators training school and experimental establishment - included in the unit were several flying Kompanien charges with conducting airborne trials.

Both 7 and 8 Kompanie were initially involved with the development of long-range W/T communications and radio direction finding.

Wakefield asserts that 7 and 8 Kompanien were used to form the basis of LnAbt 100.
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Re: LnVRgt?

I have the following Do 17 with this unit:

Skz: NS+QA and TD+ES.

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Old 16th July 2007, 20:16
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Thank you very much, Junker.
Accidentally, are known the Werknummer of this planes?

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I have the following Do 17 with this unit:

Skz: NS+QA and TD+ES.

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Old 16th July 2007, 22:23
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Re: LnVRgt?

Hi Junker,

Not any chance to find crafts like Do 217s , among the airplanes the LnVregt Köthen was flying with?
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Old 16th July 2007, 23:08
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Re: LnVRgt?

Guys,

Wakefield in Appendix 6 lists the weekly returns of Luftnachrichten-Abteilung 100.

14.10.39 Stab 1 Do 17U
21.10.39 Stab 1 Do 17U
28.10.39 Stab 1 Do 17U

18.11.39 Stab/KGr 100 2 Do 17U

Green in "Warplanes of the Third Reich" suggests that two Do 17U "pathfinders" were delivered to Ln.Abt. 100.

I seem to remember a discussion, either here or on the LEMB, about the Do 17U.
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