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Old 12th June 2009, 09:12
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He-177 losses , 12/13 June 1944

Hello gentlemen ,

Could a nice fellow list all He-177s lost that night ? I suspect one crashed without casualties close to my home in Normandy near Bolbec . A police report states that a three (!) engined bomber went down with its bomb load at 2 am. Maybe a KG40 airplane ?
I've been told that Guenther Ott has done some research on He177 , maybe he could help identify this plane and crew ?
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Old 12th June 2009, 09:57
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Re: He-177 losses , 12/13 June 1944

Losses I have for 13-6-44 are crew of Uffz. Bruhan (umlaut over u ) of I/KG40 missing over the Channel. A He177 of II/KG40 shot down over France crew baled out safe, and another of II/KG40 attacked by a nightfighter over the Seine Estuary with two crew reported wounded,

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Old 12th June 2009, 10:28
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Re: He-177 losses , 12/13 June 1944

Hello Brian ,

Thanks ! However where can I find crews and Werk-Nummers related to these planes ? " My " bomber is probably of of them.

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Old 12th June 2009, 11:11
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Re: He-177 losses , 12/13 June 1944

He177A-5 F8+FH 550215 crew of Uffz Bruhan, He177 of II/40 crew of Ofw Neuenfeldt no other details, He177 A-5 6/KG40 550221 B Uffz Karl Henninger and Bf Fw Schlegel wounded in N/F attack over Seine Estuary. On 8-6-44 there was also He177A-5 6/KG40 550083 which fell to a N/F near Tocquelle may have fallen to F/L Cowper of 456 Sqd.

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Old 12th June 2009, 12:00
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Re: He-177 losses , 12/13 June 1944

Thanks Brian !
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Old 12th June 2009, 12:20
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Re: He-177 losses , 12/13 June 1944

Checked RAF combat report and the claim that may relate to Ofw. Neuenfeldt's aircraft was made by P/O Kearney (RCAF). He claimed a He177 shot dowm 15 miles N.E. of Le Harve at 0130hrs on 13th June, reporting see one crewman baling out. The port engine of the Mosquito failed after the combat and Kearney had to make an emergency landing at a Advanced Landing ground unfortunately the Mosquito hit a truck killing a person in it.

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Old 12th June 2009, 15:37
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Re: He-177 losses , 12/13 June 1944

Hello BRIAN,
Please, would you have more details about the He177A-5 from 6./KG40, werknummer 550083 supposedly claimed by S/L Bob Cowper from 456 Squadron on the night of 8 June 1944? Would you have the codes of the aircraft as well as the crew names, please? I do have a particular interest on Cowper´s claims and activities.
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Old 12th June 2009, 16:03
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Re: He-177 losses , 12/13 June 1944

Hello Brian and Brian ,

It seems there a confusion about 550221 , was it actually flown by Ofw. Neuenfeld ?
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Old 12th June 2009, 16:22
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Re: He-177 losses , 12/13 June 1944

From what I thoght Neuenfeldt and crew were 4/KG40 while Henninger and Schlegel were 6/KG40. Neither of these two apppear in the NVM for Neuenfeldts shooting down on 9-7-44 which I thought was also the same crew who baled out uninjured ( Sea eagles vol 2 ) on 13-6-44.
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Old 12th June 2009, 16:57
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Re: He-177 losses , 12/13 June 1944

Hello Brian,

For the 8.june plane I hv 550083 or 550283, are 100 % about the 550083 ??

Noted F8+MP for the code, a plane of the 6. staffeln but manned by crew of the second ?? 1 reported to hv returned safe...

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