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Freidrich Obleser
On the 03May43 Lt. Friedrich Obleser claimed two I-153 at 05:08 (76854) and 05:12 (76862). Uffz Heinz Ermisch also of 8./JG52 claimed an I-153 at 05:10 (76861). The heights went from 800m to 900m until finally the deck. Was Ermisch his wingman that day?
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Re: Freidrich Obleser
I guess Obleser had Ermisch just as his wingman on the 03May43. So maybe someone needs this bit of information for their work on Obleser so here is what I found. Leytenant Ivan Dmitrievich Demidov of the 611 IAP (4VA) was sent on a reconn. mission over German positions. On returning he he had the misfortune of running across Obleser. He must have thought he got him with the first attack at 05:08 at 800 meters but then Ermisch thought he had another I-153 at 05:10 at 900 meters. Finally at 05:12 Obleser sent Demidov's I-153 down after hitting him at 200 meters. Demidov's wrecked plane was recovered in the Krymskaya region in the past few years.
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Re: Freidrich Obleser
Michael,
Demidov's aircraft was the only I-153 loss in the area that day. |
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Re: Freidrich Obleser
Yes, the site said that the 611 IAP was the last unit solely equiped with the I-153 in the 4 VA. Very interesting pictures of the recovery site and the "bones" of the plane.
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Re: Freidrich Obleser
hi,
i see this interesting post these days.... i found some different in microfilms info: 3,5.43 8./JG 52 Lt P-40 raum östlich Warenikowskaja E Warenikowskaja 5:08 800 E J 12 3,5.43 8./JG 52 Lt P-40 raum Imeni-Dimitrowo Imeni-Dimitrowo area 5:12 200 E J 13 maybe misidentification on model?? you have more data about the other claims of Obleser?? i have only 8 days with info!! regards
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"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger [Wingman], you have lost your battle." Dietrich Hrabak "The wingman is absolutely indispensable. I look after the wingman. The wingman looks after me....." Francis S. "Gabby" Gabreski,"The first rule of all air combat is to see the opponent first." Adolf Galland Last edited by GMichalski; 20th February 2013 at 15:08. Reason: error on paste the info |
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