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Old 21st June 2015, 21:47
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serial numbers of two No. 3 Squadron Hurricane intruder losses 28/29 July 1942?

Dear all,

I am looking for the serial numbers of the two No. 3 Squadron Hurricane intruder losses on the night of 28/29 July 1942, any help in this respect much appreciated!

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Old 21st June 2015, 22:21
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Re: serial numbers of two No. 3 Squadron Hurricane intruder losses 28/29 July 1942?

BE370 F/S A J Shirm + RAF 990450 T/o 00:15 to Haamstede Crashed England
HL858 F/S PM Gawith + RNZAF NZ402444 T/o 00:10 to Noordwijk Crashed NL

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Old 21st June 2015, 22:50
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Re: serial numbers of two No. 3 Squadron Hurricane intruder losses 28/29 July 1942?

Thanks a lot Martin for your quick and useful reply! Cheers, Theo
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Old 22nd June 2015, 12:42
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Re: serial numbers of two No. 3 Squadron Hurricane intruder losses 28/29 July 1942?

Theo: If you want any more on 3 Sqn's activities (especially in respect of Helmut Woltersdorf), do say
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Old 22nd June 2015, 14:42
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Re: serial numbers of two No. 3 Squadron Hurricane intruder losses 28/29 July 1942?

Misread my table

Gawith crashed in North Sea
Shirm in NL

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Old 23rd June 2015, 21:21
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Re: serial numbers of two No. 3 Squadron Hurricane intruder losses 28/29 July 1942?

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BE370 F/S A J Shirm + RAF 990450 T/o 00:15 to Haamstede Crashed England
HL858 F/S PM Gawith + RNZAF NZ402444 T/o 00:10 to Noordwijk Crashed NL

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F/Sgt. Shirm washed up the Dutch coast on 7th August 1942 and was buried at Oudorp.
F/Sgt. Gawith is mentioned at Runnymede Panel 117

Source research SGLO and archive Henk Welting.

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Old 23rd June 2015, 22:50
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Re: serial numbers of two No. 3 Squadron Hurricane intruder losses 28/29 July 1942?

Thanks Bas for these additional details; one of the Hurricanes was, in all probability, shot down by Hptm. Prinz zu Sayn-Wittgenstein of 9./NJG2.

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Re: serial numbers of two No. 3 Squadron Hurricane intruder losses 28/29 July 1942?

Hi Bas,

.. a little detail perhaps, but I presume that Shirm was buried at OUDDORP (Zeeland) and not OUDORP (nr. Alkmaar)?

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Re: serial numbers of two No. 3 Squadron Hurricane intruder losses 28/29 July 1942?

I have that Gawith's target was the Nordwyk Beacon, 5 miles NW of Leiden. take off 0009 hrs. Shirm took off shortly afterwards. Both came down in the sea, the only one washed ashore being Shirm at Oudorp (one D). One Hurricane was picked up by search-lights over Hulten but ineffective Flak.
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Re: serial numbers of two No. 3 Squadron Hurricane intruder losses 28/29 July 1942?

F/S A.J. Shirm has been buried at 6.8.42 (August 6th) at Ouddorp General Cemetery.
So it was Ouddorp, with two D's, a village at Goeree-Overflakkee in South-Holland.
Information from the files of the late Jan Hey.
These files are based on information from the Red Cross files in The Hague.

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