Me 109 WNr 461961

[Franek Grabowski]

Gents
Anyone has any onformation about Me 109 WNr 461961?
TIA
Franek

[Charles Bavarois]

Bf 109 G-14 built at Erla-Leipzig. On 03. Sept. 1944 Einflieger Nicolaus Mörtl made a "Werkflug" a Delitsch and final BAL-Abnahme followed on 30. September 1944. The long period of time until acceptance seems rather unusual. No infos on future fate. Do you know more?

[Franek Grabowski]

Hi
Thanks! Do you know if it was G-14 or G-14AS? It looks it was a total loss in Dec 1944. I cannot find your email in my mailbox, I shall send you a pm, when I clear the PM box, perhaps during the weekend.
Franek

[Nick Beale]

Fow what it's worth, on 23 November 1944 I./EJG 1 was told it could fetch five Bf 109 G-14s from III./JG 6 at Schwerin: W.Nr. 460620, 462873, 462972, 461993 and 461964.

No mention of any of them being an /AS model.

(Source: ULTRA CX/MSS/T378/84)

On the other hand, a possible /AS:

From (Roman) II./53, dated 25/10:
Personnel and QM report.
Serial No. 136
18/10
5. Staffel, Field Airfield Malmsheim. Ferry flight, turned over in landing. Not observed by enemy.
Bf 109 G-14 A [sic], Black 12, W.Nr. 461948, 6(D%0)%. Replacement required.

(Source: CX/MSS/R328(C),19)

[Charles Bavarois]

Franek and Nick: According to company documents, serial numbers 461961 and 461948 were built as regular Bf 109 G-14s at Erla-Leipzig in September 1944. A later conversion to AS engines is conceivable but IMHO rather unlikely

[Franek Grabowski]

Thanks!
Since the aircraft was seemingly assigned to RVT and flown aside of G-10s and K-4s, I have wondered if it was converted to AS and this caused a delay in acceptance.
Franek

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Franek Grabowski

Thanks!
Since the aircraft was seemingly assigned to RVT and flown aside of G-10s and K-4s, I have wondered if it was converted to AS and this caused a delay in acceptance.
Franek

Not necessarily. In November 1944 the G-14/AS was assigned to designated Höhengruppen (see here) while other Gruppen flew the G-14.

Pedantic note: if what they told me at school was true, in German ver- is an inseparable prefix, meaning that Verteidigung can’t be split up and Reichsverteidigung ought be abbreviated as RV, not RVT.