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Old 1st January 2012, 19:09
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Bf109G (19201) 2.(F)/123 lost 4 September 1943
Hi guys

This particular loss has been mentioned previously, but can anyone add more?

The recce Bf109 ditched off the coast of Crete (distance unknown, pilot unknown) apparently due to 'engine trouble'. The pilot was rescued (by what means?) Time unknown.

On this same date, a Spitfire of 7SAAF failed to return after the pilot called Tally Ho! (1750) when about to engage a recce aircraft some 50+ miles from El Gamil (Egypt).

Might the two have engaged?

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Re: Bf109G (19201) 2.(F)/123 lost 4 September 1943
Hi.

Loss record:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=121192

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Re: Bf109G (19201) 2.(F)/123 lost 4 September 1943
Hi Brian,

There is no more than that in my papers

04.09.43 Bf 109-G 4, (4U+HK, W.Nr. 19201) 100%, Notlandung See südl. Kreta, Pilot von der Seenot gerettet


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Re: Bf109G (19201) 2.(F)/123 lost 4 September 1943
Thanks guys

So, we haven't ruled out the possibility that the two met.

Most interesting.

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Hello Brian,

Yes, almost two months ago.
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Re: Bf109G (19201) 2.(F)/123 lost 4 September 1943
Hi Brian,

There is no more than that in my papers

04.09.43 Bf 109-G 4, (4U+HK, W.Nr. 19201) 100%, Notlandung See südl. Kreta, Pilot von der Seenot gerettet
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Thanks for the detail. What is the source of the KZ?

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John,

I`m working on it

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Hi John

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the KZ?

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Re: Bf109G (19201) 2.(F)/123 lost 4 September 1943
Brian,

i believe John meant KZ = Kennzeichen in this case as for a/c code 4U+HK...

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Re: Bf109G (19201) 2.(F)/123 lost 4 September 1943
John

I examined Charles Aubusson`s publication "Les yeux de Kesselring", didn`t found the KZ there. In case of it`s absence in the lists of Quartiermeister 6, i can`t remember where else i could find it. Sorry.

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