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Claims 4FG on FW-190-Me109 over Belgium
On January 29 1944 Cpt US Cpt France Victor " Vic " and Cpt Pisanos Spiros "Steve" both from 4 FG- 334 FS were claiming two victories near Hasselt Belgium.Cpt France a Fw-190 , probably Uffz Opperman H ( KIA) and Cpt Pisanos a Me-109. Is there someone who has additional info on this
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Re: Claims 4FG on FW-190-Me109 over Belgium
Alain -
Lt. Pisanos Credited with 2 ME 109s - Aachen Lt. France Credited with 1 FW 190 - Hasselt Lt. Beeson -Credited with 1 ME 109 - Aachen Lt. Chatterly Credited with 1 ME 109 - Aachen Lt. Whalen Credited with 1 ME 109 - Aachen Capt. Mills Credited with 2 ME 109s - Aachen Mike |
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Re: Claims 4FG on FW-190-Me109 over Belgium
Thanks for the reply.
Alain |
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Re: Claims 4FG on FW-190-Me109 over Belgium
The claims listed are most interesting when compared with known Jagdwaffe losses. We are weak, to be sure, on 1944 “damage” losses, but JG 300 lost six Bf 109s, four in combat and two in accidents. However, they were flying against a night raid over Berlin. II./JG 27 lost six 109s. Four are listed as “locations unknown”, but two are listed in locations near Aachen. One of these was Staffelführer Oblt. Willi Kientsch.
Other combat losses were from JG 3 but due to action with B-17s. It would appear that the 4th FG claims for seven Bf 109s was pretty accurate. Kientsch was a Knight's Cross holder with 53 absch. including 20 viermots. He was KIA this day. Wonder who got him? |
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Re: Claims 4FG on FW-190-Me109 over Belgium
Alain -
4th FG Led by Lt. Col. Edner. Me 109s were attacked at 1105 Hours Dogfight progressed to Hasselt where FW 190s were encountered. Mike |
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Re: Claims 4FG on FW-190-Me109 over Belgium
Alain,
The combat reports of Beeson, Chatterley and Pisanos for that mission can be found here: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...on-29jan44.jpg http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...os-29jan44.jpg http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...ey-29jan44.jpg Tim |
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