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FAFL Planes in Tchad, Cunliffe-Owen OA-1 etc.
The Free-French FAFL use several interested airplanes at the Tchad-Front. For this planes I search for more informations:
Cunliffe-Owen OA-1, I know only this was an civil Tranporterplane and look as an to big P-38 "Lighntning". Howard DGA-14, looks like an UC-67 Cant Z.1007 Bomber, where get the French this plane? |
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Re: FAFL Planes in Tchad, Cunliffe-Owen OA-1 etc.
Hans
"Cant Z.1007 Bomber, where get the French this plane?" This Italian a/c, ex 204-4 broke its right undercarriage in Beyrouth (pilot Capitano Castellani) then got back by Free French and used by Ligne Aériennes Militaire (coded FL-AVM) Info from the book : Croix de Lorraine et Croix du Sud 1940 – 1942 by Vital Ferry http://aerostories.celeonet.fr/~aerobiblio/article1107.html Sincerely Bertrand |
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Re: FAFL Planes in Tchad, Cunliffe-Owen OA-1 etc.
Hans,
Some info on the Cunliffe here http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str228.htm It's in Polish, but with some effort the technical details can be distilled from the text. Also some here: http://www.aircrash.org/burnelli/ch_oa1.htm Regards, Leendert |
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Re: FAFL Planes in Tchad, Cunliffe-Owen OA-1 etc.
Hans,
Howard DGA-14 should read DGA-15? Lots of info about the DGA-15 on the web. See for example http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver.../4515/dga.html Regards, Leendert |
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Re: FAFL Planes in Tchad, Cunliffe-Owen OA-1 etc.
Hello.
You can find an article in Ciel de Guerre n°14 about the Owen, printed out 10 days ago You can buy it at French Internet bookstore http://www.atoutlivres.com/ (there is an English text, I think.
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Many Souffan 10 allée du brindeau F-75019 Paris, France (33) 661 406 013 many.souffan@gmail.com |
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Re: FAFL Planes in Tchad, Cunliffe-Owen OA-1 etc.
Thank you!!!!
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Re: FAFL Planes in Tchad, Cunliffe-Owen OA-1 etc.
Hi
The three Howards were DGA-15P c/n 550-552 and serialled DFL-141-A to DFL-141-C and they were delivered late June 1942 to Africa, direct from New York harbour, as Ambulance aircraft. Cheers Stig |
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Re: FAFL Planes in Tchad, Cunliffe-Owen OA-1 etc.
Thank you Stig for the infos...
In the last issue of ciel de guerre n° 14 that I already spoke above where I am the co-author ( with Didier Corbonnois) you have a profile of the DFL-141A and 1 photograph. I didn't know the c/n of these planes so thank you again. I am always happy to learn something.
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Many Souffan 10 allée du brindeau F-75019 Paris, France (33) 661 406 013 many.souffan@gmail.com |
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Re: FAFL Planes in Tchad, Cunliffe-Owen OA-1 etc.
Hallo Many
How nice to see some French authors beside CJE on these pages. Unfortunately I am usually one year behind in my buying of French books.Since my french is lousy (very much unfortunately since I think it is a beautiful language as such), I do evaluate my books for a while. However "odd" topics fascinate me, and French aviation is full of them, especially in the turbulent years of WW 2. I can only assume you are a member of Le Trait D'Union. If you are check page 21 in issue 237 (Jan-Feb 2008) where you have the callsigns for two of these Howards while based at Bangui in 1942-43. Got it today! Quite an amusing co-incidence... Cheers Stig |
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Re: FAFL Planes in Tchad, Cunliffe-Owen OA-1 etc.
Hello Stig.
I am not a member of TU (Trait d'Union) but I Will see his last issue. I am only a seacher and a little historian, I have tried my best in REPLIC, Airmagazine, Ciel de Guerre & les Ailes Françaises. Even if to write is interesting, the best is always the research... A bientôt l'ami.
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Many Souffan 10 allée du brindeau F-75019 Paris, France (33) 661 406 013 many.souffan@gmail.com |