Making available an archive of NVMs and research materials wanted on the Polish Campaign (CLOSED)

[Franek Grabowski]

Larry
I suppose all the documents are on standard format, so it should be fairly easy to scan them with an automatic documents' scanner.
Regarding documents, they are not copyrighted, and only possible copyright goes to the men who copied the stuff. If WASt is going to be pissed, it is just only their problem. The same concerning NOK, I do not think that there are any parents still alive, and that the addresses are valid, it is 70 years since the events.
PS Presence of Marius Emmerling in your team just excludes any possibility of cooperation on the Polish Campaign subject, sorry. I have informed friends about this.

[RT]

I had for long time the feeling that the campaign of poland was some kind of "fantastic" story, with extraordinary figures enought action to complete at itself the whole of WWII, then came Marius Emmerling , nd with him some reasonable thinking, to add also that usually I am fond of tales nd Faeries..

Rémi

[Franek Grabowski]

Originally Posted by RT

I had for long time the feeling that the campaign of poland was some kind of "fantastic" story, with extraordinary figures enought action to complete at itself the whole of WWII, then came Marius Emmerling , nd with him some reasonable thinking, to add also that usually I am fond of tales nd Faeries..

I am just curious, what was the foundation of your opinion, if no serious research about Polish Campaign was ever published in any other language than Polish?!
Anyway, let's not steal the thread. I need some time to prepare a text about Emmerling's 'research', as this requires some translating of Emmerling's texts and original documents to show his manipulations. I will post it on TOCH of course.

[RT]

Anyway, let's not steal the thread


I missed this one sorry

[John Vasco]

Originally Posted by Franek Grabowski

Larry
PS Presence of Marius Emmerling in your team just excludes any possibility of cooperation on the Polish Campaign subject, sorry.

You better not talk to anybody or post on this forum again then, cos I think Marius has been in touch with most well-known names here. In fact, as I have been in touch with him in the past, what am I doing posting this. I should not be conversing with you. Naughty me!

Now the thing is, there is no reason whatsoever why you should not help Larry, if you have information that would be useful to him. You are not being asked to have direct contact with 'the other person', rather it is a case of helping Larry. Whoever else is helpiing him matters not one whit with regard to your contact with him. I'm sure that scenario applies to a few people who are helping Larry. Could easily apply to you, Franek, as you called me a "fucking bastard" (or similar) by e-mail one time cos I had the temerity to criticise Kagero. But I don't give a shit, you see, so I'll continue to converse with you, and help in any way I can should you need anything in the future that I can provide. That is the spirit of this Forum, and (hopefully, he says!) those who frequent it.

So, putting on my British diplomatic uniform, could Franek from Poland possibly help Larry from the US of A with some information regarding the Polish campaign...?

[Franek Grabowski]

John, a number of my pals had been in touch with Marius Emmerling, and do not want to be in touch with him anymore. The point is elsewhere. Emmerling is a member of Larry's research team, and not just an ordinary collaborator or correspondent. For me it disqualifies the research, and as for the others, I leave it to them, so made them awared of the thread.
The problem is that just everything in regard of Emmerling and his so called research has been published (or is available) only in Polish. This means that you cannot understand the problem, which is quite serious. If you have anyone in the neighbourhood, who could easily translate Polish text for you, I can send you a letter published in a Polish aviation journal, and which sheds a little light on the so called research. Otherwise, you have to wait until I prepare an English text.
You know John, if someone manipulates documents just only to prove that my (mostly late) friends (or even family) were just bunch of liars or even murderers, you cannot expect any different approach from me. More, I am certain, that you would be much more rude, when on my place.
PS I doubt if I called you a whatever doing son of something, but as far as I recall it was due to your generalisation of Kagero being extended to all Poles. Otherwise, check it in your archives, I have encouraged you to go further with it, perhaps on a legal ground.

[John Vasco]

You just don't get it do you, Franek. Larry has got shit all to do with any squabbles in Poland or Polish. He simply requests help on a particular subject, outwith anything that has gone on between two people. It's no more complicated than that.

As for the other point. Well, I keep all my e-mails, and here, verbatim, is where you tell me to fuck off:
John
You wrote the following.
*Yes, and some Polish prick did that to a joint work that I did with
another researcher/author - lifted parts of our book, translated them
into Polish, then back into poor English, and didn't even have the
courtesy to contact me about it (I was the Publisher!) Of course it's
not the original manual. The original manual was printed during the
Third Reich years! Do you think I'm fuckin' stupid! If I (or any other
author) quote from an official wartime document, we don't claim those
sentences/paragraphs as our own copyright.
*I just would like to note that in my opinion you are going too far with
regard of nationality. One point, I am not sure to which work you refer,
but if to the one of Marek J. Murawski, then be awared he is a
representative of the German minority in Poland. So, fuck off from the
Poles.

I have set on bold what I posted, and I have underlined your reply to me by e-mail. So, as you see, you did tell me to fuck off. My comment about Kagero was not a generalisation about all Poles, and well you (and everyone else) know it if you read the text in bold above. The person I refer to is he who must by now hold the world record for writing books about the Luftwaffe.

Franek, I have no problem with you telling me to fuck off. I've dished the same out many times myself, so I have no problem with that. All I would like to see is that you forget about the other person, and deal with Larry on a one-to-one basis to help his project. Can you do that? Help another genuine researcher, and someone who has contributed a great deal to this Forum over a long period of time? I hope you can do so.

My best to you, Franek, never change, mate!