Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 29th July 2008, 18:02
Larry Hickey Larry Hickey is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Boulder, Colorado USA
Posts: 2,982
Larry Hickey
Unidentified Insignia on eBay Do17P

Hello,

Glad to have the Board back up. Can anyone ID this insignia on a Do17P that just auctioned on eBay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=130240104253

Thanks,
__________________
Larry Hickey
Eagles Over Europe Project Coordinator
http://airwar-worldwar2.com
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 29th July 2008, 18:10
Peter D Evans's Avatar
Peter D Evans Peter D Evans is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: South London
Posts: 613
Peter D Evans is on a distinguished road
Re: Unidentified Insignia on eBay Do17P

Looks very similar to an emblem associated with 5./KG 3. "Luftwaffe Emblems 1939-45" by Ketley & Rolfe [Hikoki, 1998] says that 5./KG 3 used this between 1939-40 on Do17Z's...

Kind regards

Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 30th July 2008, 00:16
Larry Hickey Larry Hickey is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Boulder, Colorado USA
Posts: 2,982
Larry Hickey
Re: Unidentified Insignia on eBay Do17P

Peter,

Yes, I had noted the similarity of this insignia to 5./KG3, which, of course, flew the Do17Z early in the war. This, however, appears to be a Do17P and is probably from a reconnaissance unit. I strongly suspect that this is NOT from 5./KG3.

Regards,
__________________
Larry Hickey
Eagles Over Europe Project Coordinator
http://airwar-worldwar2.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 30th July 2008, 01:06
obdl3945's Avatar
obdl3945 obdl3945 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 615
obdl3945 is on a distinguished road
Re: Unidentified Insignia on eBay Do17P

Two further examples of the mysterious insignia from a recent crop posted on the forum... perhaps during the Balkans campaign, given the yellow cowlings...? In this photo, it would be difficult to determine the exact sub-type, M - bomber or P - reconnaissance.

Last edited by obdl3945; 9th April 2012 at 04:28.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 30th July 2008, 20:26
robert robert is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 1,918
robert is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Unidentified Insignia on eBay Do17P

Hi Larry,

in my old old photos I found one with inscription that this is an emblem of 2(F)/11.

Regards

Robert
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 31st July 2008, 00:16
Larry Hickey Larry Hickey is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Boulder, Colorado USA
Posts: 2,982
Larry Hickey
Re: Unidentified Insignia on eBay Do17P

Robert,

After evaluating the photos that you sent me, I agree that this is probably the insignia of 2.(F)/AufKlarGr 11, which used the code "6M." This insignia does not appear in the reference book by Ketley & Rolfe, but there are other examples of Do17Ps that force-landed with this insignia. Does anyone else have any photos of aircraft from this unit during the 1939-40 period, particularly FL or crashes. I note two examples in Gillet's books on the FC.

Thanx,
__________________
Larry Hickey
Eagles Over Europe Project Coordinator
http://airwar-worldwar2.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 31st July 2008, 20:28
Merlin Merlin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 653
Merlin has a spectacular aura aboutMerlin has a spectacular aura about
Re: Unidentified Insignia on eBay Do17P

Gentleman,

this bird with a camera was the emblem of 2.(F)/11 during the French, Balkan and Russian campaign well into 1942.
__________________
Best regards
Gerhard Stemmer
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Unidentified He111 insignia on two force-landed a/c Western Campaign Larry Hickey Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 42 11th January 2009 23:19
Looking for ID of insignia on Stab I./KG 51 a/c 1940 Larry Hickey Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 2 7th February 2007 03:44
Unidentified "wolf hook" insignia on a Ju 88A Larry Hickey Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 5 4th May 2006 03:50
Luftwaffe - Recco Units over France during the Sitzkrieg & Westfeldzug Jerome Ribeiro Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 8 24th February 2006 15:35
ebay Deutschland Hawk-Eye Off Topic 1 12th March 2005 13:43


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 14:40.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net