Saint Exupéry this evening on ZDF

[Soeren]

Hi,

I have noticed that in recent time there have been some postings regarding Saint Expuréry. For those of you who can whatch German television and the ZDF-channel there will be a 45 minutes program this evening at 19.30 regarding this subject.

[Nick Beale]

Thanks for that, I took a look and there's a long article on the ZDF website about the programme (in German, of course):

http://terra-x.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/2...415389,00.html

It doesn't look like my efforts to inject a note of caution have made much of an impression!

[Jan Bobek]

An interesting point is that Rippert is former employee of ZDF. A sports reporter, if I am not mistaken.

Don´t give up Nick. You might remember my suggestion about communication with media.

Czech TV Nova made also a documentary about St. Exupery case. Not a single word of doubts related to ULTRA documents. BTW the Nova reporter was aware of my artical based on your research. But he did not use it His name is Motl and he made some interesting documents about ghosts and similar mysterious topics. But he also tries to find out living Nazi-criminals.

Back to St-Exupéry- I always doubt about my research and there is one interesting point. Nova documentary mentioned that Luc Vanrell posses an American document with radio interception confirming Ripperts claim communicated via radio. This would be first solid documentary evidence that there was some dogfight on July 31, 1944 over Southern France.

However, when going through Pradel/Vanrell book I did not have this impression, because .... 1) such document is not shown in the book (just a recent letter from Rippert confirming that he shot down a P-38 on July 31, 1944) .... 2) looks like all what is said about American intelligence is this (p. 181): "Rippert annonce sa victoire (as said to authors by Rippert). Les Américains auraient cette communication radio. Le sergent-chef Jacquemont, mécanicien photographe du II/33, apprend de deux officiers américains et note dans son carnet que la perte du F-5B 223 serait due á des chasseurs allemands et qu´il aurait disparu en mer."

If I failed to notice more reference to the American document in the book - my apology and I would be honestly interested to learn more about it.

If anyone would have an idea how to contact Mr. Vanrell, I would be grateful as well.

[FrankieS]

luc.vanrell (at) wanadoo.fr

[Jan Bobek]

Thanks a lot!

[Nick Beale]

"Les Américains auraient cette communication radio."

= (if my French is right) "The Americans would have had this radio communication."

That's a conditional statement, he doesn't say they did have it. He assumes they did.

[FalkeEins]

yes basically - conditional tense is used for a reported action for which there is no confirmation (always used in news bulletins)

"The Americans apparently had/heard/intercepted this transmission.."

[CJE]

Right.
Nothing to add.

[Nick Beale]

So, what they seem to have is Rippert's claim to have called in a kill by radio — If he had scored a kill and if he had called it in, then the Americans would have heard it.

A little different from the day before, when Guth did score a victory, did call it in and the Americans did hear it (not to mention following the progress of the interception).