Collision of Bf 109 G-2 13619 and 14573

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Hello, I have a source saying both these aircraft of JGr. Ost collided near Saintes, France, on 15 Nov 1943 and Uffz Karl Witt died in WNr 13619 that was a 100% loss. I have no more data on the WNr 14573 aircraft or its pilot.

When I check Volksbund database, these is no Witt listed for 15 November, but an Uffz Karl-Heinz Witt died near Saintes four days before (on the 11th) and is buried in Berneuil. He was twenty, so the good age to be a fighter pilot under training.

I would like to know which date is right, and also as a bonus the usual details for WNr 14573.

Thanks in advance

Laurent