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15th February 2010, 22:03
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Bf109 E-4 5197
Does anyone know if there are any listings for this Bf109? Heard it might have been damage in Battle of France?
regards Mark 
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15th February 2010, 23:39
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Re: Bf109 E-4 5197
Pilot was
HERBERT TZSCHOPPE signed Chris Goss book Brothers in Arms; the Story of a British and a German Fighter Unit, August to December 1940 Do you think he is still alive? regards Mark
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16th February 2010, 07:41
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Re: Bf109 E-4 5197
Herbert died some years ago
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16th February 2010, 12:46
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Re: Bf109 E-4 5197
Hi!
Sent you the loss record Name originally recorded as Schopper and later changed to Tschopper. And the correct one was Tzschoppe... Will update the loss record Regards, Andreas B
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Ahhh... but I have seen the holy grail! And it is painted RLM 76 all over with a large Mickey Mouse on the side, there is a familiar pilot in front of it and it has an Erla Haube!
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19th February 2010, 01:42
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Re: Bf109 E-4 5197
Picture doesn't seem entirely clear - WNr. 5194 still missing in my database:
Bf 109E-4, 5197, Tzschoppe, Fw. Herbert, 3, 1., JG 53, schwarze, < +, BA+FE, , 15-Sep-40, POW due to Luftkampf with Spitfire from 41 Sq. (P/O Lovell). FSA, WIA., WNr. 5194? Per Goss in LW Fighters BoB. Conflict with earlier sources. Was flying the plane of injured Adj. Wittmeyer., Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.2, p.207; Prien, JG 53, I (2nd), p.199; Mason, p.395; BoB, T&N, p.641; Goss, LW Fighters BoB, p.146-48, 202, Goss, Brothers in Arms, pgs. 145-48, Adisham Court, Canterbury, 100%, F, , 12.10, Last edited by thenelm; 19th February 2010 at 01:43. Reason: question
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