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Old 10th October 2010, 18:17
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ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France

Hello,

Can anyone ID this Bf109E (unit, date, pilot, etc). Has this one been shown on ebay or elsewhere?

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ht_1916wt_1035

I'm pretty sure that other images of this one have been previously published, and want to get this one nailed down.

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Old 10th October 2010, 18:47
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Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France

Hi Larry,
Discussed also here at LEMB.
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Old 11th October 2010, 04:17
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Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France

Goran,

Thanks. I checked this out and saw the speculation about it possibly being one of the a/c of Marseilles. We'll have to see. I'm trying to remember a photo of a force-landed 109 on the French coast that had a dark camo like this, and carried a White or Yellow 7 for the a/c code. I seem to remember that one of the issues of Luftwaffe im Focus identified this one. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? It would help greatly if we could ID these photos with an aircraft code.

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Old 11th October 2010, 11:31
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Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France

Hello,

It's far to be established, but I'm sure that everyone here thought immediately to one of Marseille's emergency landing.
For sure it's not a Bf109E-7, but since the Marseille plane WNr. given in lost list is a Bf109E-4/E-4B, why not: Plane pictured has a late canopy windscreen!
Concerning the "White 7" Larry is talking about, described in L. in Focus, It was an Erg./JG26 - if it's the same of course.
Last, keep in mind that WNr.6137, I./JG54, is in JG54 lost list: 25/08/1940, Wissant and it is a Bf109E-1.
Of course, two last pictures given by Goran in LEMB depict the very same plane we are talking about for the reason he explained: Propeller blades bending.

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Old 11th October 2010, 16:24
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Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France

Franck,

I agree that the images posted on the LEMB are of the same aircraft. I've been carefully saving photos of Luftwaffe beach landings/crashes from the WC and BoB period for several years, and this one does't otherwise lend itself to identification, unless it's the one from Erg/JG26, which IIRC was taken in early 1941. Does anyone remember the issue of "Luftwaffe im Focus" that featured pictures of this one, and its identification?

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Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France

Hi Larry,
I have a photo of this Erg/JG26 Me109E.It's a E3/4,yellow nose and landed on a shingle seashore!
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Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France

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I have a photo of this Erg/JG26 Me109E.It's a E3/4,yellow nose and landed on a shingle seashore!
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An E-3/4 with MGs in the wings...?
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Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France

John,

This would make it likely that referenced photos that started this thread off are NOT the Erg/JG26 aircraft. As you point out, the photos show this as an E-1 with no cannon in th wings.

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Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France

Hi

It is not the plane from the I./JG 54, the 2.Staffel had red numbers, and on the first foto i see a part of a black number. Possibly it is a Me Bf 109 E-8, from the JG 3 ???

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...on the first foto i see a part of a black number. Possibly it is a Me Bf 109 E-8, from the JG 3 ???
Hi Christian,

Where? Did I miss something?

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