He177 & Ju88 W.Nr. Check?

[stephen f. polyak]

What history is known for:

He177 W.Nr. 413140

Ju88R-2 W.Nr. 751164

Thank you,
Steve

[ArtieBob]

IMHO, the Ju 88 subtype for that W.Nr. would be R-2.

Best Regards,

ArtieBob

[stephen f. polyak]

Artie,

You are so right. Picture says it all. Any ideas on this one's history, anyone?

Thank you,
Steve

[stephen f. polyak]

And the He177. Please see:

http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...howtopic=12077

[edNorth]

About He 177 plate. "Typ: 177,116" tells me that this might be from component only. "-1xx" series parts were for fuselage in the RLM "general system". Some few known major component numbers are described in A.I.2(g) reports from France 1944 but were four digit if I remember correctly, e.g. 5xxx etc. The WNr. here is also curious, as it involves "/" in-between and therefore (in my opinion) be some internal Arado Factory series number, but the thought occurres to me that this might be from around the 140th He 177 A delivered from Arado. Number however also reminds me of prewar aircraft that were "split-produced" between two or more factories, and the He 177 was exactly one such type. This might have belonged to aircraft in the W.Nr´ 550xxx range of He 177 A-5´s. I do not have exact breakdown of them baches in that range so can not speculate further. Lack of Abname date also suggest this was inspected after March 1943 (then manufacturing dates were not to be stamped, only BA or BAL Abname date given. That corresponded to Luftwaffe acceptance date, actual production date was aways earlier than that - Usually four to eight weeks, depending on how fast "the assembly flow" was). Just my two pennies.

[edNorth]

Addition: Actually I remembered wrongly! These 5xxx numbers were in MAAF FIU Technical Report No.15 on Toulouse/Blagnac, but later pages in same set of reports give this info:

Balma Aerodrome (in storage buildings for He 177 parts) this report notes, for example, on one forward He 177 fuselage marked "432022", one nose section either "431007" or "432007" (both numbers appeared twice it says). "No dataplates recovered".

In another building were noses marked "30013", "433120", "30011", "30012", "1014" (also marked 30009).

So number "413/140" seems earlier fuselage / nose (component) number. It does not say if these parts were new or had been removed from damaged aircraft. These buildings at Balma contained lots of spares, wings, tails etc. but only (all) these numbers noted.