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Old 2nd December 2005, 17:58
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19-8-1944

P/O (Pilot) Elroy F. BENT, RCAF J/9264 and
P/O (Pilot) Peter H. WYMAN, RCAF J/8642
killed when a USAAF aircraft they were on crashed 19-8-1942 at Wadi Sedina. Both airmen buried Khartoum War Cemetery, Sudan, Africa.
Looking for aircraft type, serial and unit. Can't find a MACR on this date; also not mentioned in "Ocean Bridge" (Ferry flights).
Thanks in advance for your help,
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Old 3rd December 2005, 05:17
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Re: 19-8-1944

Hello Henk,

Details from canadian web site.
P/O Elroy Fenwick Bent age 19.
Husband of Frances Evelyn Bent
of Upper Granville Annapolis Co NS.
Son of Ernest Elroy and Lorna Henrietta Bent.
Grave 8 B 4 Khartoum War Cemetry, Sudan.
P/O Peter Hersey Wyman
Son of John Kirbyand Jessie Maude Wyman of Montreal ,
Provence of Quebec.
BA McGill University
Grave 8 B 5 Khartoum War Cemetery.

There were the following claims as seen on Tony Woods site
on the 19th Aug 42.
Beaufighter, and three Spitfires.

Interested as to sorce information of the USAAF aircraft?

All for now

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Old 4th December 2005, 16:59
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Re: 19-8-1944

Hello Alex,
The info on Bent and Wyman came from "They Shall Grow Not Old" (Les Allison). Beaufighter and Hudson file don't offer any help. Also could not find a USAAF loss on http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/s...y/Aug1942O.htm
Title of the thread 19-8-1944 is incorrect and should be 19-8-1942, however I don't know how I have to change this.
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Old 4th December 2005, 19:52
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Re: 19-8-1944

Hello Henk,

I did write quite a long reply. But for some reason when i went to send it in I found it all dissapeared and that i was not loged in, which was a surprise as at the start i thought that i was.

Alex

In reply to the question it seems that there were six losses in August of 42 in the Med area of USAAC aircraft. take a look at the "Tables" offered within this site.Page 197 to start with . I started with 154 through to 209.
All the best. Let me know what you find out please.
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Old 5th December 2005, 17:31
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Re: 19-8-1944

Hello Alex,
I have same problems answering your question. The website "tells" me that I'm not logged in! Became yesterday a new password! Already sent a message to the webmaster asking what's wrong.
Answering your question:
What do you mean with: "Tables offered within this site" ?
Canadian source: accident of USAAF aircraft at Wadi Seidna (airfield north of Khartoum, Sudan) Aug.20/42. Date of death both airmen CWGC: Aug.19/42.
The website mentioned in my previous entry has no USAAF loss in Africa (Sudan) on these dates.
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Old 6th December 2005, 00:35
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Re: 19-8-1944

Helo Henk,
The "Numbered USAAF Historical Studies" pages that are shown at the top of this site, first in the list.
Click on there and a whole load of details is within.
Takes a bit of a search though.
All for now good hunting
Alex
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Old 9th December 2005, 14:44
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Re: 19-8-1944

Hello Alex,
Sounds stupid but I don't see any link to "Numbered USAAF Historical Studies". On the top I see the buttons:
Search * Links * Mission Statement * Contact AAIR
and on the next line:
Home * Services * Getting involved * Order accident reports * Weekend courses * Books * Resources * AAIR Database.
BTW I again had to enter name and password before I could make use of the reply button.
I do believe I quit and delete 12 o'clock high from my bookmarks.
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Old 6th June 2011, 00:53
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Re: 19-8-1944

Hello Henk,
Have just read your reply.
Sorry I missed it before.
The Numbered USAAF Historical Studies is on this 12 oclockhigh site, see stickies .I expect you have found them by now.
What if anything new have you found on the aircraft in question ?
All for now
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Old 7th June 2011, 19:09
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Re: 19-8-1944

Alex,
You missed my thread by almost 5½ year !! Unfortunately still have no idea what you mean to say with "Numbered USAAF Historical Studies on this 12 oclockhigh site, see S T I C K I E S". Also no idea were I may find the word "Tables". Not long ago visited my eye-doctor and he found them o.k. Maybe my age ? (almost 78). Still have no idea where to look and find possible info on US a/c lost in Africa 19-8-1942 (location Wadi Sedina) what may have been in Sudan because the Canadian passengers were buried in the Khartoum War Cem.
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Re: 19-8-1944

Here is the link Henk:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=1620

It is from the list of "sticky" messages at the top of the list of topics for Allied and Soviet Air forces.
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