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Old 9th February 2012, 08:54
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Hello Gents,

Following JG 54 lost list, it has been destroyed - 100% - on 12/2/1942 flown by Lt. Otto Schmidt (+). Schwarze 1 +. 5./JG 54.
It seems the same W.Nr.7221 was flown by Oblt Heinrich "Gaudi" Krafft in March (?!) 1942. 3./JG 51, Gelbe 7.

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Difficult to believe. According to my loss database, I/JG 51 operated F-1 and F-2 versioins (Bestandliste der I/JG 51 of March 1942 shows only F-1 and F-2). Also, I/JG 51 never lost any Bf 109 in 7xxx series.

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Hello.

The 7221 do reappear in JGr Süd i n 1943.

Airframe recovered and repaired probably.

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Difficult to believe. According to my loss database, I/JG 51 operated F-1 and F-2 versioins (Bestandliste der I/JG 51 of March 1942 shows only F-1 and F-2). Also, I/JG 51 never lost any Bf 109 in 7xxx series.

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Hello Matti,
That WNr. is given in Kracker list and here: http://www.me109.info/display.php?a=e&fid=6091
But you're maybe right since obviously there's no exhaust cover neither position light cover. Except for the windscreen armor, I would say it's an F-2.
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Hello.

The 7221 do reappear in JGr Süd i n 1943.

Airframe recovered and repaired probably.

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Oh yes Andreas, I forgot that one too!
Schubert, Franz. Uffz. (+) on 26/6/1943, near Fl.Pl. Orange; 100%. 'Blaue 6' in 4./JGr. Süd.
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Re: Bf 109F-4 W.Nr.7221
To all,

and now these four pictures:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-not...item1e6ae553cf

Note that though Otto Schmidt plane was in 5./JG 54 there was no II.Gruppe line as indicated upper.

Same seller is offering that one:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Flu...item20c21f0ef9

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Re: Bf 109F-4 W.Nr.7221
According to NVM, that JGr. Süd aircraft is 7229.

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I don't know what's NVM
mine is:
Akte RL 2 III/1190, Seite 10, # 20 (AERO)
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Namentliche Verlustmeldungen, which today are at WASt.

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Hello, Matti!

Again, thank you for enlightening us.

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