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Old 3rd October 2012, 20:06
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Thumbs up September 7 1944 Ivoz Ramet L5 Observer

Dear Friends,



we trying to find some informations as to the
following matter:


On September 7th, 1944 the 3rd Armored entered an area near
Grâce-Hollogne (near Liège), called CORBEAU.

At that location, a German air defence position was situated

The location was bombed until 1630


After the bombing, apparently the installations were either
destroyed or disassembled

At that moment a US plane flew over (probably an L5 Observer
plane) and was shot down by a large group of German aircrafts.

That plane crashed near IVOZ RAMET

The names of the two fallen pilots are not known at the moment maybe with your help, we might be able to find out the two names of those two aviators.


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Old 3rd October 2012, 21:12
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Re: September 7 1944 Ivoz Ramet L5 Observer

Dear Friends, maybe this are the two men -


http://www.aviationheritage.eu/nl/co...s-t-thornburgh


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...551236&df=all&


7. September 1944

JaFü II. Jagdkorps/Lw.Kdo. West:

07.09.44 Hptm. Johannes Naumann Stab II./JG 6 Auster III 􀂅westl. Huy at 500 m. 17.05 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr. -


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Old 4th October 2012, 12:16
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Hello ,

I think that your spot on .

8/09/1944
Ivoz-Ramet ( in the River Meuse near the bridge of Laneuville)
L-5 "Sentinel"
Fw-190
67TRG-153LS
8*R
S/Sgt Mikeman Kenneth C ( KIA ) pilot 18129164 Custer County Oklahoma
Col Thornberry ( KIA ) this name is wrong as you know by now
Mikeman first buried at Fosse near Namur , later Henri-Chapelle H/7/

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Old 4th October 2012, 13:47
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Re: September 7 1944 Ivoz Ramet L5 Observer

Just to add that Col. Thomas T. Thornburgh (O-012147) was a member of the US Army Ground Forces Observer Board (ETO).

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Old 4th October 2012, 14:33
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Re: September 7 1944 Ivoz Ramet L5 Observer

Hello,

Did this happen on the 7th or on the 8th ?
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Old 5th October 2012, 13:47
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Re: September 7 1944 Ivoz Ramet L5 Observer

Laurent,

Good point. My assumption: shot down on 7 Sep 44, but bodies recovered one day later with (official) date of death 8 Sep 44.
Of course their IDPFs may give more details here.

In the 153rd LS Unit History for Sep 44 it even says that Sgt Mikeman's plane was shot down by enemy aircraft on 9Sep 44...!

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