Luftnachrichtenschule 4 losses 5-4-44

[David Pausey]

While looking at http://www.wiki.luftwaffedata.co.uk I found this:-
On the 5th of April 1944 Luftnachrichtenschule 4 lost a Ju 86E-8 and a Caudron C 445 shot down by U.S. fighters near Lyon, both 100%, 12 killed.

As far as I know all U.S. fighter claims were over Germany and I believe these losses were due to a 418 Sqn Mosquito flown by F/L Scherf, F/O Stewart who claimed the following over France:-

Fi156 destroyed on ground Monsoreau
Potez 63 or Me110 shot down Lyon A/F
T/E S/F E/A(poss Fw58) shot down Lyon A/F
Two He111 destroyed on ground St. Yan
Does any one have more details on the aircraft lost and crews ?

Regards
David

[Laurent Rizzotti]

The link below (in French) is listing crashes in Rhone department :
http://espacesaerienslyon.pagesperso....fr/rhone2.pdf

My traduction:

"During the morning, the Caudron Goéland 445 A 1, n° 976, with German markings and coded TC+KW, was shot down by an Allied fighter above Bron airfield. Feldwebell Herbert Rose (pilot), the radioman and three radiomen under training were killed. Only the pilot is buried in the German war cemetery of Dagneux.

The same day, probably the same Allied fighter shot down the Ju 86 E-8, Werk Nummer 3077, coded CU+NJ, above Bron airfield. Unteroffizier Franz Wolf (pilot), the radioman, the flight engineer and four radiomen under training were killed. Only the pilot is buried in the German war cemetery of Dagneux."

Remark: I'm not sure that the above statement about the pilots that were the only ones buried at Dagneux is true. As only their names were apparently known by the writer, they were the only ones found by him.

[Jim P.]

Caudron C 445, 0976, Rose, Fw. Herbert, , , , Ln.Sch. 4, , TC+KW, TC+KW, , 05-Apr-44, Crew killed due to enemy fighters., , Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/778, Flzg.Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.123, , bei Lyon, 100%, H, Bf Uffz. Rudolf Eydner, Sch Gefr. Johannes Linge, Sch Gefr. Heinz Meinert & Sch Gefr. Manfred Ronsdorf, ,
Ju 86E-8, 3077, Wolf, Uffz. Franz, , , , Ln.Sch. 4, , , , , 05-Apr-44, Crew killed due to enemy fighters., , Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/778, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.123, , bei Lyon, 100%, H, Bf Fw. Kurt Eberhardt, Bm Uffz. Otto Görlich, Sch Gefr. Herbert Stiechel, Sch Gefr. Bernhard Overmeier, Sch Gefr. Rudolf Nietzsche & Sch Gefr. Horst Schröter, ,

[David Pausey]

Thank you Laurent Rizzotti and Jim P. for the info most helpful.

Regards
David