Luftwaffe losses CD "Anglo-Deutsches Erinnerungs Gruppe"

[David Pausey]

Hi

Does any one have any info on a CD compiled from the archive of the "Anglo-Deutsches Erinnerungs Gruppe" detailing aircraft losses of the German Luftwaffe. The CD in Microsoft Excel format contains information on aircraft Wnr's, pilots etc and many entries include links to further information which can be found in aviation books. The CD does not contain every aircraft lost during the war but the loss list has been compiled using the Luftwaffe Quartermaster Returns.

Regards
David

[Jim P.]

This item seems to have become something of the 'Holy Grail' of those interested in the history of the Luftwaffe......

[David Pausey]

Hello Jim

I have just won this CD on e-bay will see if its any good. Not expecting to much but you never know.

Cheers
David

[David Pausey]

CD is on e-bay here

Luftwaffe Aircraft Losses 1939 - 1945 on CD Rom Item number: 290137431925

Regards
David

[RT]

Something like 20.000 entries,

On the general return losses, we hv

1939/40 9000 +
1941 10000+
1942 14500+
1943 23000+

1944/45 I hv for the moment a bit more than 30.000

It could be interesting to know what's on in the CD

Remi

[Frank Olynyk]

I received the CD that I bought on eBay on a "Buy Now" price on Monday, July 16. The main thing which is NOT on the CD is the date of the loss. Until this gets corrected on the files on the CD I cannot recommend purchasing this, even at the low price being asked. The lack of dates may be part or all of the reason for the low price. I have asked for a replacement disk with dates, or a refund.

Frank.

[drgondog]

Frank - I had same reaction. worthless to me without both dates and locations.

[Melvin Brownless]

Hi to all,
Re: loss/data list

I have this copy in my archive and it has been compiled by using many official documents together with many hundreds of other references including aircraft markings, linked photographic sources etc, etc.
In column K can be found the date of loss and a little further the location of the incident if known. Perhaps our two celebrated members now need glasses?

Kind regards

Melvin Brownless
"Anglo-deutsches Erinnerungs Gruppe"

[Frank Olynyk]

Melvin,
I have checked several of the files again, and with the help of your eBay email, I have found the dates. They are in the column labelled "Remarks", mixed in with other text related to the loss. In two formats, as 16.4.41 or as 24.April 1941, with other surrounding text. In any case, not sortable, or searchable. It is going to take a lot of work to create a new column of just the date, and extract it from the Remarks.

My eyes may be getting old, but I was looking for a column of nothing but dates, the only reasonable way to prepare this kind of data. You need to think about how one would go about using this data.

Bill,
The location is there, in the column labelled Locale. Not perhaps as precise as you would want it, but that is probably due to the original data.

Frank.

[Melvin Brownless]

Hello Frank,

Thank you for your response it is much appreciated. I do agree that it is a little difficult to navigate but it can be used by using your tool bar. click on any box in a column relating to what sort of search you want to carry out, click edit on the tool bar when the short list appears select "find what" put in a Wnr, name etc etc and if its in the data base the programme will find it. This data/loss CD has taken a very long time to compile due to all the references etc I still have thousands to add which I have in hard form like the Quartermasters Returns + several thousand WASt reports. Any problems then please contact me again.

Kind regards,

Melvin Brownless
"Anglo-deutsches Erinnerungs Gruppe"