Photos 8-23-12 - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

edwest · #1 24th August 2012, 01:12

Marc-André Haldimann · #2 24th August 2012, 09:05

Ed,

Thanks again for your excellent haul:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI....#ht_500wt_1156
Most probably a Bf 109 G-14, W.Nr. unknown "Schwarze 75", of an unknown training unit, as we don't known the location where this pic was taken. Note the classic Erla Leipzig camouflage.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...#ht_500wt_1370
Bf 109 G-6/AS or G-14/AS, W.Nr. and unit unknown, Bayreuth, May 1945. Note that Arado Ar 96 "DE+NT" bears W.Nr. 4120.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...ht_1110wt_1136
See thread "Late war Bf 109 picture source, post no 314: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...=27108&page=32

Cheers
Marc

ouidjat · #3 24th August 2012, 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Ed,

Thanks again for your excellent haul:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...#ht_500wt_1370
Bf 109 G-6/AS or G-14/AS, W.Nr. and unit unknown, Bayreuth, May 1945. Note that Arado Ar 96 "DE+NT" bears W.Nr. 4120.

Cheers
Marc

Thanks Ed, Hi Marc,

What about the camera bay cover widely opened under fuselage??
Why a G-6/AS or G-14/AS ??? Sorry It seems I see too much or not enough; This morning it's "not enough".

.

Cheers, Franck.

kaki3152 · #4 24th August 2012, 15:16

Wow, lovely haul.

I likethe crash landed BF109G of IV/JG-27, notice the two small bars behind the Balkenkreuz.

And all the NJ Ju-88 pictures are intersting.

Marc-André Haldimann · #5 24th August 2012, 23:44

Franck!

'tar she blows! You opened my eyes! I saw this fairing and just thought it was an odd piece of junk not belonging to the plane!

Great, thanks! As for the cowling, I don't see the G-6/G-8 bulges; same for the back of the old bulges: nothing to be seen. Thus, I thought /AS... You see really the old bulges? I don't...

Cheers
Marc

edwest · #6 25th August 2012, 01:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaki3152

Wow, lovely haul.

I likethe crash landed BF109G of IV/JG-27, notice the two small bars behind the Balkenkreuz.

And all the NJ Ju-88 pictures are intersting.

Any thoughts about these two small bars? Were they standard or special?

Ed

the_ivan · #7 25th August 2012, 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Franck!

'tar she blows! You opened my eyes! I saw this fairing and just thought it was an odd piece of junk not belonging to the plane!

Great, thanks! As for the cowling, I don't see the G-6/G-8 bulges; same for the back of the old bulges: nothing to be seen. Thus, I thought /AS... You see really the old bulges? I don't...

Cheers
Marc

Ther rear part of the bulge could be removed easily for servicing the MG131s. It was not press-formed and part of the cowling like the front part.

In this photo one can see the curved trace left by these parts rearward of the spent cartridge chutes. In fact, you can see the standard bulge in the cowling lying on the ground

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ouidjat · #8 25th August 2012, 03:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest

Any thoughts about these two small bars? Were they standard or special?
Ed

Hello Ed,

1/ This not the first time this picture is put to auction. One or two months ago.
2/ This marking was used by IV./JG 27 for a short time only during summer 1943; So, yes it was standard but just for a short time. after they did back to IV gruppe wave.
3/ Most probably that picture - eBay one - has been taken at Kalamaki ... in summer 1943.

Note different length!

Regards, Franck.

ouidjat · #9 25th August 2012, 03:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Franck!

'tar she blows! You opened my eyes! I saw this fairing and just thought it was an odd piece of junk not belonging to the plane!
Marc

Me too, don't worry; Took me a long time to get it; first I thought it was kind of a photoshop!
And the-ivan told it; just behind the air scoop.

Cheers, Franck.

ouidjat · #10 26th August 2012, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat

Hello Ed,

1/ This not the first time this picture is put to auction. One or two months ago.
2/ This marking was used by IV./JG 27 for a short time only during summer 1943; So, yes it was standard but just for a short time. after they did back to IV gruppe wave.
3/ Most probably that picture - eBay one - has been taken at Kalamaki ... in summer 1943.

Note different length!

Regards, Franck.

You are welcome Ed

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