Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 15th October 2012, 21:15
Larry Hickey Larry Hickey is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Boulder, Colorado USA
Posts: 2,982
Larry Hickey
Looking for crewman names of Do17 from 4.(F)/14 Shot Down during Polish Campaign

Hello,

Do17P 5F+MM was reported to have been shot down during an air battle over Poland on 1 Sept. 1939. The pilot whose name began with a "B" was reported to have bailed out and been captured by Polish forces. What was this pilot's name, and who were the other crewmen and what happened to them?

Who can help?

Regards,

Larry Hickey
EoE Project Coordinator
__________________
Larry Hickey
Eagles Over Europe Project Coordinator
http://airwar-worldwar2.com
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 15th October 2012, 23:56
KrisJG3 KrisJG3 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Emsland Germany // Stettin (Pommern) Poland
Posts: 962
KrisJG3 is on a distinguished road
Re: Looking for crewman names of Do17 from 4.(F)/14 Shot Down during Polish Campaign

Maybe this help a little bit:

"...We wrześniu 1939 roku do działań przeciwko Polsce w 1 i 4 Flocie Powietrznej skierowano ok. 527 tych samolotów. W czasie kampanii wrześniowej stracono w sumie 53 samoloty Do-17, a 29 zostało uszkodzonych. ...''

"... In September 1939, the action against Poland in 1 and 4 Air Fleet sent around ca. 527 of these aircraft. During the September campaign lost a total of 53 aircraft Do-17 and 29 were damaged ....''


'...(F)/14 - We wrześniu 1939 roku 9 samolotów Do-17P z 4 eskadry podlegało dowództwu 14 Armii. ...."
'
"... (F) / 14 - In September 1939, nine aircraft Do-17P with 4 squadrons subject to command the 14 Army .... "'


Source and more:

http://pzkpfw.tripod.com/technika/ni...oloty/do17.htm

So I think only 9 aircrafts Do-17P from all 53 destroyed Doniers should be checked from September 1939.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 18th October 2012, 00:10
piters piters is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 29
piters is on a distinguished road
Re: Looking for crewman names of Do17 from 4.(F)/14 Shot Down during Polish Campaign

According to the book by Łukasz Łydźba, "Krakowski III/2 Dywizjon Myśliwski" (Poznań 2012) this crew was shot down by Polish fighter P.11c, led by corporal Jan Kremski, over Brenna (13 kms southwest Bielsko-Biała).
One Leutnant captured by Polish soldiers, two other crewmen KIA. The officer was interrogated in 21.Infantry Division HQ in Bielsko.
Sorry, no names are known.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 18th October 2012, 09:25
Larry Hickey Larry Hickey is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Boulder, Colorado USA
Posts: 2,982
Larry Hickey
Re: Looking for crewman names of Do17 from 4.(F)/14 Shot Down during Polish Campaign

piters,

Thanx for your comments. I know about the book just published by Lukasz, although I don't yet have a copy. This is the incident for which we're trying to get crew info. There should be an NVM with this info. Maybe Matti knows more about this.

Regards,

Larry Hickey
EoE Project Coordinator
__________________
Larry Hickey
Eagles Over Europe Project Coordinator
http://airwar-worldwar2.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 18th October 2012, 10:19
Matti Salonen Matti Salonen is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tampere, Finland
Posts: 3,240
Matti Salonen will become famous soon enoughMatti Salonen will become famous soon enough
Re: Looking for crewman names of Do17 from 4.(F)/14 Shot Down during Polish Campaign

Unfortunately I have not found a NVM for this. For 1939 NVMs are sometimes fragmentary and even those, which are found normally do not contain aircraft info.

Matti
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 18th October 2012, 19:24
Larry Hickey Larry Hickey is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Boulder, Colorado USA
Posts: 2,982
Larry Hickey
Re: Looking for crewman names of Do17 from 4.(F)/14 Shot Down during Polish Campaign

Matti,

Thanx for taking a look. Based upon your experience with casualties, do you have a suggestion as to how we might go about locating the particulars on this crew and a/c loss?

Regards,

Larry Hickey
EoE Project Coordinator
__________________
Larry Hickey
Eagles Over Europe Project Coordinator
http://airwar-worldwar2.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 18th October 2012, 20:34
Matti Salonen Matti Salonen is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tampere, Finland
Posts: 3,240
Matti Salonen will become famous soon enoughMatti Salonen will become famous soon enough
Re: Looking for crewman names of Do17 from 4.(F)/14 Shot Down during Polish Campaign

Sotty, but I have no practical ideas. Perhaps our Polish friends could still find something new? In theory, this could be solved easily, if we had a possibility to have a look at the Russian war booty archive, but so far this is only a dream.

Regards,

Matti
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Friendly fire WWII Brian Allied and Soviet Air Forces 803 8th July 2023 15:47
Need Reference for Shield on 1./KG2 StaKap Do17 during Polish Campaign Larry Hickey Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 0 15th May 2011 22:13
Polish Campaign of 1939 - some first hand battle accounts Domen123 The Second World War in General 0 23rd December 2009 01:41
Identity of Do215 (probably Do17) alleged to have been shot down near Rotterdam, probably during the Western Campaign Larry Hickey Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 1 19th April 2009 10:39
Stuka in Aeroplane II/05. Nice Story and Plenty Errors! Mirek Wawrzynski Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 11 27th January 2005 19:15


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 03:49.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net