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Looking for info on 4 Luftwaffe pilots/trainers

Hello all,

I am trying to gather as much info as possible regarding 4 LW pilots that served as Bf109G trainers for romanian pilots at Brasov, Romania.
The school was called Jagdlehrgang Kronstadt and it is yet unclear if it was subordinated to the Luftwaffemission in Romania or to the romanian AF.
These are the only names and details that we have so far :

1. Flugzeugführer Uffz Günther Kilka + he is buried in the Brasov cemetery

1944-07-15, Einsatzschwarm/Jagdlehrgang Kronstadt, Bf109F-4, 13279, Azuga, Absturz nach Luftkampf. Bruch 100 %.

His death is a very big mistery, no USAF a/c was present on that day in the area where he was shot down, the other USAF claims for the day are verified and occured in different areas of Romania, instead a romanian IAR-81 was downed with the pilot dead as well, both the germans and romanians took off from the same airfield in order to intercept the USAF bombers and their escorts, but at different times, and it is very possible that both deaths were caused by friendly fire, we have an account of the romanian pilot's wingman which states that they encountered P-51's in a cloudy area which they engaged, but it is also very possible that the P-51's were actually the german Bf109's returning from the scramble.

2. Major Siebelt Reents

31.5.1944 Jagdlehrgang Kronstadt Bf109G-4 19332 BK+YJ Bei Kronstadt ( Brasov ) Rumänien Unbekannt. Bruch 30 %

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=90899 A victory from the spanish civil war
http://www.meiermotors.com/de/motore...bf109-e-1.html His mount in Spain


3. Fritz Gaeckel ( last name possibly misspelled )

We found in a romanian local police report that he crashed on 06.06.1944 near Brasov but we weren't able to match this with available Luftwaffe crash reports.

4. Major Ziehm - no other data on him

It is suspected that the surviving trainers returned after 23.08.1944 on a raid over Brasov airfield and destroyed the romanian caputred and repaired B-24, if we could get a victory confirmation for this one it would be amazing.

A bit of background info for the trainer units from an older axis history thread ( http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=97363 )


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Flieger-Lehrstab der deutschen Luftwaffenmission in Rumänien
(FpN: L 52790)

also as: Sonderkommando Rumänien
Jagdfliegerschule Galatz


Leiter (Chef):
Gen.Maj. Carl-August Schumacher (May 43 - Mar 44)
Maj. Erich Gerlitz, Kdt. of Jagdfliegerschule Galatz (May 43 - 1944?)

Formation and History. (May 43 - Aug 44)
Formed o/a 1 May 1943 at Galati (Galatz)/Romania as a special training detachment for instructing Romanian pilots on the Bf 109G fighter. The detachment was was equipped with 8 to 10 Bf 109Gs and ran a three-month course for 150 Romanian pilots. During the USAAF B-24 attack on Ploesti on 1 August 1943, the Luftwaffe instructors and some of the Romanian pilot-trainees scrambled to intercept, but no claims were evidently filed. On or about 1 Feb 44 it was either disbanded (FpN deleted 19 Feb 44) or the personnel were used to form Ausbildungskommando beim I.Kgl. Rum. Fliegerkorps, which in June 1944 was located at Arad/NW Romania with 8 officers and 47 men. There was a Jagdlehrgang Kronstadt (Braşov) was up and operating there on 28 Jun 44, but evidence suggests that the course may have only started a few weeks before; it had German instructors and a handful of Bf 109 fighters. On 14 Jul 44 a Bf 109G-4 was damaged landing at Fp.Ghimbav/3 km from Brasov, 15%, according to a loss report filed by Luftflotte 4. It was referred to in Romanian documents dated 1 Sep 44 as Şcoala de Vinǎtoare Ghimbav under Romanian lst Air Corps.

Any new information regarding these pilots or the school would be much appreciated.
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