Foto Album of Luftwaffe Fliers

[rickback4444]

Hi,

Just bought a little photo album of Luftwaffe pilots KIA . They include:

Leutnant Manfred Stahlschmidt - killed: 15.09.1943
Otto Munch - killed: 08.08.1944
Erich Kolb - killed: 17.09.1944
Otto Will - killed: 11.09.1944
Alfred Fischer - killed: 05.12.1944

Can anyone provide details on their units and how they died?

Many thanks

Rick

[ChrisS]

Aged 19.... what a tragedy.

[Matti Salonen]

1943-09-20, Stab II/JG 5, Bf 109G-2, 13504, <I schw, 40 km nordöstlich Vardö, Bordwaffenbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Stahlschmidt, Manfred, +
1944-08-08, 11./KG 54, Ju 88A-4, 141194, B3+AY, 1 km südlich Lostau, 11 km nordöstlich Magdeburg, Unbekannt um 01.48 Uhr. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fhr Münch, Otto, +
Flugzeugführer Ofw Engler, Edmund, +
Kampfbeobachter Uffz Baum, Hellmut, +
Bordfunker Uffz Karsunke, Oswald, +
1944-09-17, 1./NAGr. 14, Bf 109G-8, 201141, 5F+10 weiße, Südrand Dorfes Tyiszio, 25 km westlich Szaszregen, Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fhj-Uffz Kolb, Erich, vermißt
1944-09-11, 3./JG 3, Bf 109G-14/AS, 781155, 4 gelbe, Luftkampf. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fhj-Uffz Will, Otto, vermißt
1944-12-05, 8./JG 1, FW 190A-8, 175203, 15 blaue, Raum südöstlich Waren, Absturz nach Luftkampf mit P-51. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Fischer, Alfred, vermißt

Matti

[researcher111]

There is a possibility that on that day Gotah ( Saxonia) was attacked by the 44th BG
and may have been brought down by either a Lib or its escort. I suspect the target was either Gotha or Zwickau car factory.

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by rickback4444

Hi,
Erich Kolb - killed: 17.09.1944

Hello Rick,

Can I ask you for a scan of this pilot's photo and death card (Erich Kolb - killed: 17.09.1944)? I would like to use it in a book I am collecting material for.
Your help would be greatly appreciated.

I can give you my e-mail address off board.

Thanks,

[Jim P.]

I have WNr. 13501 for the Stahlschmidt loss, and the WNr. 13504 as 60% damaged on 18-Sep-42 with 8./JG 52.

Bf 109G-2, 13501, Stahlschmidt, Ltn. Manfred, , II., Stab II., JG 5, schwarzes, , BC+VX, , 20-Sep-43, KIA due to Luftkampf with Boston and enemy fighters., Coded '<- + ' per Valtonen and loss? Kongsoyfjorden, 40km nordostwärts Vardö?, Lfl.5/Eins.Westen, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.21; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, XII.1, p.234; Valtonen, LW Pohjoinen Sivusta, p.389; Mombeek, Eismeerjäger, V.IV, p.237, , 40km nordnordöstlich Vardö, 100%, F, , ,

Bf 109G-2, 13504, n.n., , III., 8., JG 52, , , BJ+WA, , 18-Sep-42, Engine trouble due to Flak., , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #7)-Vol.11; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IX.2, p.570; Barbas, III./JG 52, p.306; Fast, JG 52, IV, p.76, , Fl.Pl. Gonschtakowka, 60%, F, , ,

[Matti Salonen]

Jim, thanks for correction. This explains again one of the numerous duplicates I have.

Matti

[Jim P.]

Happy to be able to help. jlp

[rickback4444]

Hi,

Thanks for all the information - when I get the album through I will send scans to those who have asked.

Rick

[RCnoob]

All of these pilots were killed in late 1944. That was a period when the average survival time of new pilots was about 2 missions, according to one source, and a few weeks, according to another. There was almost no fuel for training, but there were plenty of aircraft, so the Luftwaffe kept sending pilots up to be slaughtered.

That explains the 19 years old. War = waste + tragedy.
There is some discussion of this period in my new paper, starting about page 92:
http://art2science.org/2013/07/16/no...-ww2-aviation/