Soviet A/A caliming in Winter War?

[Mirek Wawrzynski]

It is known the official number of air claim (this is not real figures) reported by Soviet airmen during the Winter War -
VVS RKKA land air forces - 362 (or 381) planes
and
naval aviation VVS KBF - 65.
Total 427 aircraft.

How was the number of notifications claimed by Soviet anti-aircraft guns?
I know that on the Northwest-Front gunners reported 8 kills.

Has anyone seen any other data on the successes of Soviet anti-aircraft gunners during the Winter War?

regads,
mw

[Stig Jarlevik]

Mirek

Counting the victory claims listed by Geust in Red Stars Vol 7, he lists 360 air-air claims (by ALL units, that is not only fighters but also includes bombers and close support unit claims). An additional 20 claims were submitted against ground targets, for an all in of 380 claims. This of course is only the Air Force list.

Unfortunately there is no such corresponding claim list in his earlier Red Stars Vol 5 for the VVS Baltic Fleet (VVS KBF) and Northern Fleet (VVS SF)

No such listings for any AA-units

Cheers
Stig

[Mirek Wawrzynski]

Yes you are right, Carl has done big effort to make this work (RS 5 and RS 7), but "ommited" to give the number of Soviet A/A victories/claims.

There are in many publication only given air victories (air or claimed on the land). From other sources, which I know, that next 8 was add by Soviet A/A only over North-western Front (two Soviet armies) - but it was the main front of war. I think that on the other "fronts" there were less A/A claims from obvious reasons.

mw