The Il-2 role in Eastern Front

[Stormovik]

Actually how many casualties in eastern front of this plane? Its produced until 42,000 (36,000 Il-2 series and other is Il-10)

[Laurent Rizzotti]

I thought the reply was on Internet but my memory was wrong.

What I found (again) was the Soviet AC losses for 1944, and the total pilot losses for the war.

In case it helps you, the site is:
http://my.tele2.ee/airacesww2/airace...cles/artie.htm

[kolya1]

AFAIK : Il-2s : most sources state about 12 000 lost in combat (AAA, fighters, on the ground, and unknown) for the whole war.

IL-10s : I did never come across loss figures...

Hope this can help,

kolya.

[Stormovik]

Thx guys.
12,000 mean 30% of Il-2 populations
I stll looking for the Il-2T data, is it success to sinking ship?

[Graham Boak]

Originally Posted by Stormovik

Thx guys.
12,000 mean 30% of Il-2 populations
I stll looking for the Il-2T data, is it success to sinking ship?

I believe there is some doubt about any service use of the Il.2T. This is phrasing it carefully and politely.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by kolya1

IL-10s : I did never come across loss figures...

In Europe:
108 GShAP during period 16-30.4.1945 lost 3 Il-10s in combat and 4 for other reasons
118 GShAP starting 8.5.1945 lost 3 Il-10s in combat (1 by fighter, 2 by AAA)
571 ShAP 224 ShAD 15.4-8.5.1945 lost 3 Il-10s during combat missions and 2 for other reasons.
Against Japan:
26 ShAP lost 6 Il-10s in combat - by AAA

Total number: 15 Il-10s in combat.
"Il-10" O.W. Rastrenin, Militaria 232, Warsaw 2005

[Stig Jarlevik]

All

According to Yefim Gordon and his book about the Il-2 and Il-10, the Il-2 suffered the following losses
Red Army: 10759 (24% to fighters, 43% to AAA, 32% failed to return, 1% on the ground)
Naval Forces:807

The German overclaiming in relation to Il-2 losses is estimated at appx 2.2.

He also says that SOME Russian researchers state that the Il-2T was in service (even gives the operational Unit) while others state that the type never even existed.

I am not certain how to evaluate Russian research, but such statements reflects rather badly on the research performed and it CAN of course be put in perspective relating to loss research.....

Cheers
Stig

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

According to Yefim Gordon and his book about the Il-2 and Il-10, the Il-2 suffered the following losses
Red Army: 10759 (24% to fighters, 43% to AAA, 32% failed to return, 1% on the ground)
Naval Forces:807

I assume the quoted losses were only the combat losses. Overall losses should thus be much higher.

[Evgeny Velichko]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

All

According to Yefim Gordon and his book about the Il-2 and Il-10, the Il-2 suffered the following losses
Red Army: 10759 (24% to fighters, 43% to AAA, 32% failed to return, 1% on the ground)
Naval Forces:807

The German overclaiming in relation to Il-2 losses is estimated at appx 2.2.

He also says that SOME Russian researchers state that the Il-2T was in service (even gives the operational Unit) while others state that the type never even existed.

I am not certain how to evaluate Russian research, but such statements reflects rather badly on the research performed and it CAN of course be put in perspective relating to loss research.....

Cheers
Stig

Hi all!

About Il-2 T. This plane WAS NEVER EXIST. I know 1 guy, who had talk about that plane with general engeneer of factory, witch made Il-2 during WWII.

& that engeneer sayd - IL-2 CANT hang sutch weight as torpedo.