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Old 27th June 2005, 05:18
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KG 1,3 and 4

Can someone give me details on missions flown by the stab of each of these geschwader on 1.9.39

Anything on take-off times (delays), bomb loads, crews, targets, etc. would be most appreciated.

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Old 27th June 2005, 07:39
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Re: KG 1,3 and 4

Hi Adam,

stab/KG1 the first combat mission was flown by observer Kessler`s crew with He 111H V4+AA between 13.00 - 15.25.
stab/KG3 one recce flight Do17Z 5K+KA with Olt.Fehle`s crew 03.30-08.06.
stab/KG4:
08.35-12.25 He 111P 5J+FA Lt.Wichartz`s crew wheather condition flight and recce flight over airfields in Dęblin and Radom. The crew attacked with bombs the airfield in Radom but there`s were not any planes observed.
11.00-12.00 the staff flight moved to Langenau and was over Kraków together with I/KG4 (13.35-13.45). The He 111P 5J+GA wih crew: Unf.Gasch,Unf.Wunderlich,Unf.Winkler, Unf.Rohrwege due to poor visibility could`t attack and returned to base only at 18.00. The He 111P 5J+AA with Oberst M.Fiebig on board recognized the airfields in Kraków and Rybnik. 3 polish fighters tried to attack but were to slowly. The a/c returned at 15.50. The He 111P 5J+EA returned at 15.52.
11.35-16.15 He 111P 5J+IA with Olt.Schieckel`s crew recce flihgt over airfields in Wadowice, Wieliczka, Kraków, Tarnów, Dębica, Jarosław and Lwów.
At 14.50 He 111P 5J+FA was over airfield Dęblin-Zajezierze. Bomb attack but without results (none aircrafts on the airfield).
Source: M.Emmerling "Luftwaffe over Poland 1939.Kampfflieger Part 2".

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Old 28th June 2005, 12:41
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Re: KG 1,3 and 4 fao Robert

Hi Robert,
What a superb answer to Adam's request!
The book you mention by Emmerling sounds excellent, could you give me any further information as to the dates this Part covers, and whether it includes the
markings for the losses throughout, as seen above? Also where can i purchase this book.

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Old 28th June 2005, 18:11
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Re: KG 1,3 and 4

Hi Steve,


this book covers the German bomber units in September 1939 over Poland (mission, losses, etc.).
Unfortunately is in polish. When you want I can buy it for you and send you.

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Old 29th June 2005, 12:58
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Re: KG 1,3 and 4

Hi Robert,

Many thanks for your reply and offer to help.
Unfortunately i didnt realise that this book was in Polish, Iwonder how easily it would be to translate? also do you know how much the book would cost?

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Old 29th June 2005, 18:52
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Re: KG 1,3 and 4

Hi,

this book costs some 40-50 PLN (ca.10-13 Euro). The shipping costs will be about 20 PLN (I send one copy to USA) but I dont remember this so perfectly.
Translation...Hmm...?

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P.S. I can check for you something in this book when you want.
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Old 1st July 2005, 11:15
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Re: KG 1,3 and 4

Hi Robert,

Thanks for your kind offer of help, if i decide to order it from you i will let you know.

Many thanks
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Old 19th August 2005, 09:28
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Re: KG 1,3 and 4

Hi Steve,
if you need some info from my books please ask me directly.
Perhaps in the future it will be published in English, but we will see.

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Re: KG 1,3 and 4

Hello Marius,

Nice to read you again, after so long time...

I would certainly buy the English translation of your book.
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Old 19th August 2005, 20:52
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Re: KG 1,3 and 4

Hi Marius,

Has you may have seen from my previous messages,
i for one, would certainly be interested in a copy of your book translated in English, although i must say im tempted to order the current Polish edition!
Marius, do you have any scans or could you copy some examples of the losses or kills from the appendices, i wonder if id be able to translate these myself?

Incidently, where would i be able to purchase copies of these books from,
would it be yourself, or another outlet, and if so what is the cost?

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