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12th July 2016, 13:37
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2/JG52, 12.09.1940
2/JG52.
Messerschmitt Bf109E (3182). Domestic flight, crashed and burned out nr Calais, France. Cause unknown. Pilot killed. Aircraft a write-off. Anyone (Chris?) know the name of the pilot? Many thanks, Steve
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12th July 2016, 13:58
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Re: 2/JG52, 12.09.1940
Gefr Heinz Lowreck
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12th July 2016, 14:39
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Re: 2/JG52, 12.09.1940
Thanks Chris
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12th July 2016, 21:47
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Re: 2/JG52, 12.09.1940
I have the same WNr(3182) for the Bf 109E-1 flown by Ltn Hans Bethel(Stab JG 52)and lost in colission with Hurricane near Stapelhurst(pilot POW)on Sep 15, 1940.
This second must be wrong.
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12th July 2016, 22:29
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Re: 2/JG52, 12.09.1940
Well spotted Daniel, not the first time the Luftwaffe Loss records have made a mistake with the WNr. It also appears the report of a collision with another Bf109 is also in error
 Stab I/JG52. Messerschmitt Bf109E (3182). Lost control following collision with another Bf109 during free-lance sortie over Kent. Crashed at Dering Wood, Biddenden, near Tenterden, Kent. Lt. Hans Berthel (F) baled out and captured at Bounds End Farm, Staplehurst, Kent. Aircraft a write-off.
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13th July 2016, 16:31
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Re: 2/JG52, 12.09.1940
Jochen has it as 3183 for Berthel. Maybe numerical blindness by someone?
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17th July 2016, 10:43
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Re: 2/JG52, 12.09.1940
What about the following 3183:
1942-03-22, 5./JG 5, Bf 109 E-7, 3183, 6 rote, 6 km östlich Titowka-Bucht Flugzeugführer Olt Grobe, Rudolf, + Notlandung infolge Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %. Matti
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