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Old 2nd May 2025, 06:32
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11(h)Jg2 - Jg26 Fw Grüber Unverletz 31.7.42 Audembert?

On an oppdate in the losslist 8.10.42, there is an uppdate on 3.8.42 on an Fw Grüber 11/Jg2 that is taken from Verletzen to Unverltz ( out of hospital after crash at audembert 30.7.42?
Can this person be the pilot we are looking for at the crash with G1 014055 at audembert 30.7.42?
Is there any more info to be found on him?
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Old 2nd May 2025, 13:41
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Re: 11(h)Jg2 - Jg26 Fw Grüber Unverletz 31.7.42 Audembert?

Fw Heinz Grüber of 11./JG 2 got his first kill on 30 Jul 42. There were no losses on 30 Jul 42 but Grüber was shot down in 14073 the day after, baling out

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Old 3rd May 2025, 08:19
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Re: 11(h)Jg2 - Jg26 Fw Grüber Unverletz 31.7.42 Audembert?

Hi Chris Goss, there was a loss on 30 7 42 with 11(H)Jg26 ( our G2 at Sola aviation museum) Unknown pilot at present, thats why i wonder if it could be the same person?
Still looking troug the loss list updats to se if i find anyting on the 30.7
See ther is possebileties for updates as late as 2 years or more after the acsident.
In the loss list this sis listed as with JG2 not with Jg26
In an update 21 7 42, is mentioned that I/Jg2 is canged to anderen verband Jg 26.
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Old 3rd May 2025, 11:21
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Re: 11(h)Jg2 - Jg26 Fw Grüber Unverletz 31.7.42 Audembert?

11./JG 26 had 2 G-1s shot down on 30 Jul 42. 14048 pilot baled out near Samer and 14055 suffered 70% damage Audembert. No names of the pilots. Not sure what you mean about I./JG 2 as it existed as is Jan to Dec 42
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Re: 11(h)Jg2 - Jg26 Fw Grüber Unverletz 31.7.42 Audembert?

I have a note that WNr.14055 was lost with 1./JG5 as white 3 + on 7 July 1943.
It is unlikely that an aircraft 70% damaged would be repaired to fly again.
Have I got the wrong WNr. for the July 1943 loss, or is there an error in the records, or?...
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Re: 11(h)Jg2 - Jg26 Fw Grüber Unverletz 31.7.42 Audembert?

In the GQM loss returns and in the JFV Vol. 7 and Vol. 10/III two losses of the WNr. 14055 are listed:
30 Jul 1942 11./JG 26 Bf 109 G-1 70%; emergency landing airfield Audembert.
07 Jul 1943 I./JG 5 Bf 109 G-2 white 3 100%, crash location 100 km southwest of Egersund, pilot Fw Josef Sommeregger KIA.
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Old 4th May 2025, 09:40
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Re: 11(h)Jg2 - Jg26 Fw Grüber Unverletz 31.7.42 Audembert?

I agree with Andy why would they rebuild a 70% damaged G-1 as a G-2 when it would be easier to scrap it. It appears that there might be an error with Wk Nr or %
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Re: 11(h)Jg2 - Jg26 Fw Grüber Unverletz 31.7.42 Audembert?

My toughts is also that the "New" 014055 is rebulid from another airframe - most possibly an F4 modofied to G2 standard with 20 to 35 % damage from an aufklarer unit.
Lokking for a airframe wit Wnr.7813 ( F4 serial?)
Found on our Rh side main gear
The 601E engine points on an F4
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