JU88 "4D+HN" 5/KG30 missing 29 Sep 41

[Black6]

Does anybody know if this is the full crew of this aircraft which force landed behind Russian lines on 29 Sep 1941, at least 3 were captured. Did they survive the war ?

Gefr Heinz Wendt FF
Gefr Jakob Merzenick BF
Ogefr Heinz Hartmann BS
Gefr Josef Marquardt B

Thanks for your help
Peter

[Black6]

can anybody help please ?

[Rottler]

Hello Peter,

according to the GQM loss return this was the complete crew of the Ju 88 A-5 WNr. 5039. All four are listed as missing. Noted is the loss category 1 = missing due to enemy action on an operational flight/ vermisst durch Feindeinwirkung auf Feindflug. The further fate of the crew is unknown to me.

Regards
Leo

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hello Black6,

Ju 88 A-5 W.Nr. 5039 "4D+HN", 4./KG 30, took off from Stavanger-Sola and was lost in the Klimovka Bay, Kola Peninsula, 29 Sept. 1941.

The crew members you list are the full crew of W.Nr. 5039. They are all listed as POW and as such, did normally return to Germany after the war.

Cheers
Marc

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Hello Black6,

Ju 88 A-5 W.Nr. 5039 "4D+HN", 4./KG 30, took off from Stavanger-Sola and was lost in the Klimovka Bay, Kola Peninsula, 29 Sept. 1941.

The crew members you list are the full crew of W.Nr. 5039. They are all listed as POW and as such, did normally return to Germany after the war.

Cheers
Marc

Marc

I find it extremely unlikely they took off from Sola. I would say Banak is far more likely. I paid a visit to that airfield some years ago and it is amazing how look-a-like this place is. Close your eyes and you can almost hear the 88s taking off....

As usual I fail to locate the place you state, in this case Klimovka Bay. Locating Soviet places are extremely tricky, at least for me! Nothing on Google maps or google at all. Do you know where this Bay actually is? Mission was as usual to Murmansk.
May I also ask from where you have the extra details such as the place they came down and that they were made POW?

Cheers
Stig

[Rottler]

According to Michael Holm’s www.ww2.dk the 4./KG 30 was based at Banak from 16 Aug 1941 to 30 Sep 1941.

Regards
Leo

[edNorth]

Stig / Marc

I too have this was found by Soviet Forces at Klimkova Bay 01.10.41
(Source: Matti Salonen NVM); I agree t/o from Sola is much too far.
Banak is of course Laxelv Airfield built 1938 (Banak = Airfield at Lakselv)
and thus not real name, but kind of code like Bansö.

[Stig Jarlevik]

I know Ed

What is Salmon River compared to Banak?
To me the place will always be Banak....

Sorry, can't find Klimkova either.....

Cheers
Stig

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

Marc

I find it extremely unlikely they took off from Sola. I would say Banak is far more likely. I paid a visit to that airfield some years ago and it is amazing how look-a-like this place is. Close your eyes and you can almost hear the 88s taking off....

As usual I fail to locate the place you state, in this case Klimovka Bay. Locating Soviet places are extremely tricky, at least for me! Nothing on Google maps or google at all. Do you know where this Bay actually is? Mission was as usual to Murmansk.
May I also ask from where you have the extra details such as the place they came down and that they were made POW?

Cheers
Stig

Hi there Stig,

All details about W.Nr. 5039 do stem from Michael Balss's loss list, which sources GQM files as primary sources.

Cheers
Marc

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Hi there Stig,

All details about W.Nr. 5039 do stem from Michael Balss's loss list, which sources GQM files as primary sources.

Cheers
Marc

OK Marc
In the case of Sola he is wrong. Just look at a map and you will see why.

For the other details he lists, others before him have consulted the GQM returns, such as Hannu Valtonen, Leo Rottler and many more, but none has so far added any such details Balss provide. Must be something else.

Cheers
Stig