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Old 16th January 2025, 12:59
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Obfhr. Alfred Schenkelberg (JG54)

Hello all,

Would love to find out more information about Alfred Schenkelberg, doesn't matter which information whether about victories, plane(s), life, death etc. - all info is appreciated.

Oberfähnrich Alfred Schenkelberg
25.12.1923-17.07.1944 (Buried in Champigny-St. Andre)

Online I can find some of his victories:

09 Apr 1944 Alfred Schenkelberg 8./JG 54 B-17 Fortress 7000m 11:20 TA 6-9
02.07.44 Ofhr. Schenkelberg 7./JG 54 Spitfire £ UT-1: 2.000 m. [Montfiquet/Calvados] 20.50 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.381


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KilledInAction (KIA) 17 July, 1944 (Magnus). One known victory, a P-38 SE of Oschersleben on 19 May, 1944 (Perry Claims). A 2nd, a Spitfire at Montfiquet/Calvados on 2 July, 1944. Magnus, 5 victories. 8/JG-54 (5/44), 7/JG-54 Fw 190A. EK 1 & 2, Fighter Operational Clasp.


Sources:
https://www.asisbiz.com/Luftwaffe/Lu...es-1944-A.html

All help is appreciated

Many thanks in advance
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Re: Obfhr. Alfred Schenkelberg (JG54)

Hi Bart,

The Bundsarchiv sources for the three claims you know about:

09.4.44 RL 5/1449 p. 0241 19/R
19.5.44 RL 5/1449 p. 0339 12/L
02.7.44 RL 5/1451 p. 0141 7/L

There are also at least two claims for a "Uffz. Schenkelberg" of 5./JG 52 on the Eastern Front:

2.2.43 LaGG-5 RL 5/1458 p. 0138 6/R
13.2.43 I-16 RL 5/1458 p. 0151 9/R

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Re: Obfhr. Alfred Schenkelberg (JG54)

Hello Bart V.,

in Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 13/V three claims and two losses of Obfhr Alfred Schenkelberg are listed:
9 Apr 1944 P-47 (1) 11.20 Pl.Qu. 15 Ost/TA 6-9
19 May 1944 P-38 (2) 13.18 southeast of Oschersleben
2 Jul 1944 Spitfire (3) 20.50 Pl.Qu. 15 Ost S/UT 1

19 May 1944 aerial combat area Wolfenbüttel, parachute jump, injured
Fw 190 A-8 WNr. 730317 black 7, 100%.

17 July 1944 aerial combat La Trigale, missing
Fw 190 A-8 WNr. 680832 white 7, 100%

To the losses in the east in 1943:
Jim has misread the documents: the pilot of 5./JG 52 was Uffz Otto Schicketanz.

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Re: Obfhr. Alfred Schenkelberg (JG54)

Sorry,

the two losses on the Eastern front in 1943 were claims of Uffz Schicketanz

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Re: Obfhr. Alfred Schenkelberg (JG54)

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/album....pictureid=1706

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/album....pictureid=1705

Thank you, Leo. You are absolutely correct.

Bart, my apologies. I did, indeed, misread the names!
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Re: Obfhr. Alfred Schenkelberg (JG54)

Thank you all already for responding! Excellent info.

I noticed his "Credit" list given by his CO (months after him going MIA) credits another victory (see photo if it succeeds, see no way to attach somethign)

Edit: Seems no photos appear, the list mentions (his first) victory:

1.) 8.4.44 13,55 Uhr Boeing B 17 F II NW Salzwedel
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Re: Obfhr. Alfred Schenkelberg (JG54)

Hello,
Quote: "One known victory, a P-38 SE of Oschersleben on 19 May (1944)"


No P-38 crash in that region reported that day.
Overclaiming by Jg54 pilots.
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Re: Obfhr. Alfred Schenkelberg (JG54)

I also learned that he crashed together (although other plane but they crashed the same day at the same place) with his Staffel comrade Willibald Seifert. Both were shot down that day and both crashed at La Trigale in Normandy. Interesting.

Is there any info on who could have shot them down?
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