Photos 12-17 - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

edwest · #1 17th December 2006, 22:10

Stig Jarlevik · #2 18th December 2006, 20:30

Hi All

Am I totally barking up the wrong tree when I ID this one as a Ha 137?
In such a case I have no report that any of the six prototypes V-1 to V-6 ever carried the reg D-IJJE.
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=200059341074

Any ideas??

Cheers
Stig

ArtieBob · #3 18th December 2006, 22:22

Stig,
I thought it was a BV 137 also, but personally have made more than one incorrect ID lately. BTW, the Do 217 nightfighter appears to be a Ju 88, probably an A-4, A-17, etc. There are several more Ju 88 shots in this group, I don't any were identified as such.

Best Regards,

Artie Bob

starmountain · #4 18th December 2006, 22:34

Hello ,
the Ha 137 D-IJJE , Werknummer 194 ,was finshed in June 1st. 1937 in Wenzendorf by B&V , went then to Travemünde and later to Rechlin in November 1937 . The engine was a Jumo 210 C .
Regards,
starmountain

Stig Jarlevik · #5 19th December 2006, 18:34

Starmountain
Ahhh an expert!

Perhaps you then can help out with the missing WNr for the Ha 137? Also was WNr 194 considered perhaps to be the V-7?

V-1 WNr 107 D-IXAX
V-2 WNr 108 D-IBGI
V-3 WNr 109 D-IZIQ
WNr 110 airframe tested to destruction
V-4 WNr ??? D-IFOE
V-5 WNr ??? D-IUXU
V-6 WNr ??? D-IDTE
V-? WNr 194 D-IJJE

Cheers
STig

gogh · #6 20th December 2006, 11:56

Dear Members
On the LEMB site I get this for the Ha 137

D-IDTE Ha137 v6 W.Nr.19
D-ITEK Ha137 v1 W.Nr.107
D-IXAX Ha137 v2 W.Nr.108
D-IZIQ Ha137 v3 A W.Nr.109
D-IFOE Ha137 v4 B W.Nr.110 later NE+AG
D-IFBA Ha137 A-0 W.Nr.187
D-IONU Ha137 A-0 W.Nr.188
D-IBGI Ha137 A-0 W.Nr.189
D-IUXU Ha137 v5 B W.Nr.192
D-IONO Ha137
D-IXIU Ha137
D-IXJA Ha137
D-IYXO Ha137

Some sources give other data as can be seen on the LEMB stkfz list
under the sources.

Regards
Peter van Gogh

starmountain · #7 20th December 2006, 13:48

Hi Stig and Peter ,

this are my informations :

V-1 A WNr 107 D-ITEK
V-2 A WNr 108 D-IXAX
V-3 B WNr 109 D-IZIQ

WNr 110 airframe tested to destruction ( Kössler !)
Nr.110 later NE+AG ( what source ? )

V-4 B WNr 183 D-IFOE
A-0 WNr 184 D-IYXO
A-0 WNr 186 D-IXJA
A-0 WNr.187 D-IFBA
A-0 WNr.188 D-IONU
A-0 WNr.189 D-IBGI

V-5 B WNr 192 D-IUXU
V-6 B WNr 193 D-IDTE
B-0 WNr 194 D-IJJE

D-IONO Ha137 unknown ...
D-IXIU Ha137 unknown ...

Regards ,

starmountain

gogh · #8 20th December 2006, 20:40

Hi Starmountain

I think your list is correct.
The NE+AG was connected to D-IFOE
The data I had came from the LEMB board and was
given by members.The confusion was arround W.Nr.110
The NE+AG should be also W.Nr.183 as D-IFOE.
I corrected the data on the LEMB list and it will be on the web in the next update.

Regards Peter van Gogh

RT · #9 20th December 2006, 22:14

It seems that by B+V the Wn blocks were not attibuted to one model, but used for all production in the following, so if

BV137 is 107-110
bv138 is 148-153
bv139 is 181-182
bv137 is 183-189
bv140 is 2.. +3..

...

May system used for the vessels..

Remi

F19Gladiator · #10 21st December 2006, 14:25

Another old shot published before. It appeares in Werner Held's The Day Fighters P.155 in the latest English edition I have, which is from 1991 by Schiffer. The original German language edition is from 1977 why this photo has been around for quite some time.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=120065006516

However, for those who want to see a better copy than on ebay can find it as per above....page 155.

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