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Old 27th January 2007, 17:59
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447BG B-17s Ditched 29 Apr 44?

I have info that TWO 447BG B-17s ditched in English Channel on 29 Apr 44

B-17G 42-31519 447/709 Ditched in Channel
B-17 447/710 Lt. E. Henningson ‘Rowdy Rebel’ Ditched in Channel -9 Rescued?

Are these aircraft the same or different?

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Old 27th January 2007, 20:44
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Re: 447BG B-17s Ditched 29 Apr 44?

Hi Rob

#42-31217 447/710 IJ-G « Rowdy Rebel » pilot 2nd Lt Paris Harold M. (POW) O-812301

#42-31519 447/709 IE-O Pilot Flemming (RTD) I think!

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Old 28th January 2007, 07:22
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Confusion over ‘Rowdy Rebel’!!!

Thanks, for your input, unfortunately, there seems to be some confusion over the B-17s with the nickname ‘Rowdy Rebel’ that participated in the 29 Apr 44 raid on Berlin –even on some 447th /B-17 sites.

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Type MACR Serial No. Grp/Sq AC# AC Code Pilot Plane Name Comments
B-17 4247 42-31144 447/708 Lt Hayden T Hughes Rowdy Rebel OR Miss America Ftrs en route Destedt/Germany 9KIA/1POW
B-17G-5-BO 4249 42-31217 447/710 IJ-G 2Lt Harold M Paris Rowdy Rebel OR Solid Sender Ftrs near Eggenstedt/Magdeburg /Germany -10 POW

Lost over England/Category E Damage
B-17G 42-31519 447/709 IE-O Flemming Ditched in Channel SAME AS below?
B-17 447/710 Lt. E. Henningson Rowdy Rebel Ditched in Channel -9 Rescued?

Maybe you can help me sort these four B-17s out?

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Old 28th January 2007, 19:30
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Re: 447BG B-17s Ditched 29 Apr 44?

As far as I know , #42-107229 447/4710 was also named “Rowdy Rebel” in this unit and this airplane was loss the 25/8/1944 in the north sea with 1st Lt Henningson E.
#42-31144 “Miss America”
#42-31217 non know name but I have also “Rowdy Rebel “
#42-31519 non know name
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Old 30th January 2007, 00:44
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Re: 447BG B-17s Ditched 29 Apr 44?

TO ALL - There is a story and Photo of # 42-31217
w/ Rowdy Rebel on Nose.
Shot Down 4/29/44 MACR # 4249
Pilot - Lt. Harold M. Paris POW
Story and Photo: History of the 447th BG by Doyle Shields
Pages 100 , 101
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