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Old 22nd October 2018, 10:47
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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...r/192697316085

A fabulous shot, RudiS!

We have here Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 151 934 "Gelbe 13" seen with the JG 300 RVB tailband; as it sports the short horizontal black bar of JGr. 300, ordered if memory serves me well in April 1945 for regrouping II. and III./JG 300.

Location for this rare shot, possibly stemming from Carl Hildebrand's collection, is unknown so far. JGr. 300 machines were found at Langensalza, München-Riem, Ainring and Salzburg by war's end. Given the open and flat country to be seen, München-Riem would be a good candidate.

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Old 22nd October 2018, 11:43
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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Great find indeed!
WNr. 151934 was a Bf 109 G-10/R6 of a batch of a/c taken over on 25. March 1945 directly at the Erla-Auslieferungslager at Leipzig. III/JG 300 took over more than 20 a/c that day.

And again that elusive black Balken on the Rumpfband. IMHO JGr 300 is a very remote possibility only, but who knows?

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Old 22nd October 2018, 12:05
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Great find indeed!
WNr. 151934 was a Bf 109 G-10/R6 of a batch of a/c taken over on 25. March 1945 directly at the Erla-Auslieferungslager at Leipzig. III/JG 300 took over more than 20 a/c that day.

And again that elusive black Balken on the Rumpfband. IMHO JGr 300 is a very remote possibility only, but who knows?

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Carl,

Thanks for your precision regarding W.Nr. 151934. Regarding the touchy JG 300 - JGr. 300 issue, we have all told seven machines documented photographically so far sporting the short horizontal bar regarded as the specific JGr. 300 markings :

1. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr unknown "Schwarze 1", JGr. 300, location unknown, Germany, May 1945. Source: Collection James V. Crow via Broken Eagles Bf 109 G/K, part II, Hildebrandt 1989, p. 3.

2. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Gelbe 6", JGr 300, Neubiberg, Germany, May 1945. Source: Ebay auction, August 2012.

3. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 49. .06 "Schwarzer Winkel", JGr 300, location unknown, Germany, May 1945. Source: Ebay auction, July 2012.

4. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 150 816 "Schwarze 4", JGr 300, Langensalza, June 1945. Source: LEMB Forum, published in Forsyth 2004, Jagdwaffe colours, Volume five section three, Defending the Reich 1944-1945, p. 274.

5. Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown, "Blaue 2", Fw. Josef Umminger, 16./JG 300 with JGr 300 horizontal bar, Buchau, 8 May 1945. Source: Collection Hesse, published in Luftwaffe im Focus Spezial no 3, Photo 60.

6. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Gelbe 1", JGr 300, Germany, after 16 April 1945. Source: ebay.de, November 2007.

7. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 151 934 "Gelbe 13", found this morning.

Not much indeed, but enough to start the ball rolling.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-LUFTWA...O/253945403087


https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-LUFTWA...O/253945399540


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The two Do 335 photos may be copies as they have been published before in various publications:

https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gall.../captured-a-1/

The Fw 190 Luftflotte 4 is new to me.
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Note the Me262 "Weisse 26" in background. Pity, still no place indication.
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Does anyone know the WNr of this Me 262?
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Does anyone know the WNr of this Me 262?
I see you need a little help Rudi:

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