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Re: KG51 Losses 22.6.41
Hi Steve;
I have A-5 6318 9K+DT III/KG 51 missing (Tarnepol) 22.06.1941, no 9K+DR in June 1941. (Note: Loss is reported as III Gruppe - not 8. Staffel - suggesting 9K+DT might be correct? I stick to 9K+DT unless proof comes this is wrong.) cheers ed |
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Re: KG51 Losses 22.6.41
Ju 88A-5, 6230, Wenezowky, Hptm. Günter von, , 5., KG 51, , 9K+IN, , , 11-Jul-41, MIA, cause unknown. B & Bs MIA, Bf KIA., , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , Ort unbekannt, 100%, F, B Fw. Karl Aull, Bf Fw. Heinz Mühlenberg & Bs Ogefr. Karl Kühner,
22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 8259, Ungericht, Fw. Alfred, , KG 51, 9., gelbe L, 9K+LT, , , 22-Jun-41, , MIA with crew, cause unknown., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , (Stryj), 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 6296, Steinmetz, Oblt. Herbert, , KG 51, 8., , 9K+ES, , , 22-Jun-41, , KIA with crew, cause unknown., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , , 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 5126, Evers, Uffz. Otto, , KG 51, 9., gelbe C, 9K+CT, , , 22-Jun-41, , Reported lost, cause unknown. Crew returned WIA., DK. Built at Heinkel Flzg.Werke Oranienburg in Jul-40., , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, Medcalf, Ort unbekannt, 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 6234, Harmann, Ltn. Christoph, , KG 51, 8., , 9K+AS, , , 22-Jun-41, , KIA with crew, cause unknown., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , , 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 5245, Böhm, Oblt. Gerhard, , KG 51, 9., gelbe G, 9K+GT, , , 22-Jun-41, , KIA with crew, cause unknown., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , Tarnopol, 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 6318, Alder, Ltn. Emanuel, , KG 51, 9., gelbe D, 9K+DT, , , 22-Jun-41, , MIA with crew, cause unknown., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , Tarnopol, 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 2364, Spannheimer, Ofw. Rudolf, , KG 51, 5., , 9K+HN, , , 22-Jun-41, , KIA, cause unknown. 2 others KIA, 1 MIA., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , , 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 5178, Sommer, Fw. Heinz, , KG 51, 9., gelbe A, 9K+AT, KC+GO, , 22-Jun-41, , MIA with crew, cause unknown., Built at Heinkel Flzg.Werke Oranienburg in Sep-40., , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, Medcalf, (Büchow), 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 6143, Palmer, Fw. Wilhelm, , KG 51, II., , , CF+VM, , 22-Jun-41, , WIA due to enemy fire., Built ATG Flzg.Werke at Leipzig in Aug-40., , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, Medcalf, Krosno, b, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 6229, Deisinger, Ofw. Raimund, , KG 51, 7., weiße F, 9K+FR, , , 22-Jun-41, , KIA, cause unknown. Rest of crew MIA., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , Tarnopol, 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 5136, Amelung, Uffz. Heinrich, , KG 51, 2., , 9K+FK, , , 22-Jun-41, , MIA with crew, cause unknown., DK? Built at Heinkel Flzg.Werke Oranienburg in Aug-40., , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, Medcalf, Ort unbekannt, 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 3171, STEMMLER, Oblt. Wilhelm, , KG 51, 4., weiße A, 9K+AM, ND+DS, , 22-Jun-41, , Reported lost, cause unknown. F and 1 other returned, 2 KIA., RK. Built Henschel Flzg.Werke Schönefeld in Aug-40., , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , Ort unbekannt, 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 7076, Klopsch, Fw. Günter, , KG 51, 8., , 9K+DS, VK+VD, , 22-Jun-41, , MIA, cause unknown. 2 others MIA, 1 KIA., Built Dornier Flzg.Werke at Freidrichshafen in Jun-40., , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, Medcalf, Ort unbekannt, 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 2373, Müller, Ltn. Gerhard, , KG 51, 5., , 9K+GN, , , 22-Jun-41, , MIA with crew, cause unknown., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , , 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 4328, Schmidt, Ltn. Heinz, , KG 51, 5., , 9K+CN, , , 22-Jun-41, , MIA with crew, cause unknown., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , , 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 8179, Stadelmeyer, Hptm. Fritz, , KG 51, Stab II., grüne I, 9K+IC, PC+QM, , 22-Jun-41, , KIA, cause unknown. 2 others KIA, 1 WIA., Built Siebel Flzg.Werke at Halle-Leipzig in Dec-40., , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, Medcalf, Ort unbekannt, 100%, F 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 8196, Hogger, Ltn. Josef, , KG 51, II., , , , , 22-Jun-41, , WIA due to Flak. 1 other WIA., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , Pantalowice, b, F |
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Re: KG51 Losses 22.6.41
Good evening Jim,
Thanks ever so much for posting these losses for the 22.6.41. This appears to show with doubt that Alder was indeed with the 9/KG51, and flying 9K+DT as opposed to 9K+FR W.Nr 6229 as given in Andreas's report earlier. Hopefully another conumdrum closed! Given the enormous losses suffered on this day, and further a/c that returned damaged, and crashlanded, its a wonder the Geschwader was able to keep its operational status! One wonders how soon the losses were made up. Thanks ever so much for providing the losses Jim, im very grateful. Best regs, Steve. |
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Re: KG51 Losses 22.6.41
22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 5245, Böhm, Oblt. Gerhard, , KG 51, 9., gelbe G, 9K+GT, , , 22-Jun-41, , KIA with crew, cause unknown., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , Tarnopol, 100%, F--- 1km NW Worona , 18km SO Stanislau, all four were buried at the Worona cemetery
22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 8259, Ungericht, Fw. Alfred, , KG 51, 9., gelbe L, 9K+LT, , , 22-Jun-41, , MIA with crew, cause unknown., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , (Stryj), 100%, F-- Ju88 crashed on the road Stryj-Bolechow,1,5km N. Lisewice.Fw.Alfred Ungericht and his Bombenschütze Uffz.Kurt Küster were injured by crashlanding. Both were captured by Russians and brought into the hospital of Stryj . After states from local inhabitants both was murdered by the NKWD. The other two escaped and came back to his unit on 12.7.1941. 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 5178, Sommer, Fw. Heinz, , KG 51, 9., gelbe A, 9K+AT, KC+GO, , 22-Jun-41, , MIA with crew, cause unknown., Built at Heinkel Flzg.Werke Oranienburg in Sep-40., , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, Medcalf, (Büchow), 100%, F-- Crew back to his unit on 10.7.1941 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 6234, Harmann, Ltn. Christoph, , KG 51, 8., , 9K+AS, , , 22-Jun-41, , KIA with crew, cause unknown., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , , 100%, F-- Lt.Cristoph Hermann. He and his crew were found buried at the crashplace south of Drohobycz near Truskowiec, left the railroad Truskowiec-Drohobycz by the 2./Pol.Batl.311 22-Jun-41, Ju 88A-5, 6296, Steinmetz, Oblt. Herbert, , KG 51, 8., , 9K+ES, , , 22-Jun-41, , KIA with crew, cause unknown., , , Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , , 100%, F-- report from Fw.Klopsch,8./K.G.51- plane from Steinmetz was hit bei the enemy, right engine in flames.The plane became ever slower, flew under my Ju88 and rammed me. Steinmetz flew further approximately 10 minutes. Engine gave more and more clouds of smoke .Than the airplan crashed and exploded . North of Lemberg Rene |
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Re: KG51 Losses 22.6.41
Hi Andreas, no problem at all.
Im sure many of us have spent time imputting data onto our PC's until the early hours, and have made a typo through sheer exhaustion! Please do so at your leisure. Steve. |
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