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Old 25th February 2008, 15:29
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Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please

The WNr. number of one of Graf's 109Gs with JGr. 50 was 15919. This is confirmed via a photo in Bregstrom's book on Graf & Grislawski published by Eagle Editions. Graf had at least 2 different 109s.
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Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please

I 'd be happy to offer Stefaan the same if he is interested.
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Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please

Here is an other photo of the "Trip. Chev. wht. 4", also with written informations on the photo. Date is given with 29. oct 1942.

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Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please

Hre is another photo of the same plane you forgot David. Definitely there is no JG27 emblem!
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http://www.joewillis.co.uk/JAWillis/...aid%201943.jpg

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Old 23rd July 2010, 00:40
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Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please

There wouldn't be since that is a JG 77 machine!!!
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Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please

Another way to say it! But since some were (are?) still not convinced, better to say it with a picture no one had see before.
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Old 27th July 2010, 02:22
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Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please

They can be 'not convinced' all they want, but if they are relying on Osprey as their primary source then they are just 'whistling in the wind'. The documentary sources such as the Prien JG 77 history prove otherwise. And one or two pictures of said machine aren't going to help - you need to see the all the pictures thus far published of the Stab machines of JG 77 to realize that this one is consistent with a Stab/JG 77 machine. As a matter of fact in the same series of books, if I recall correctly, there is a 109G-4 JG 27 Kommodore machine flown by Neumann from roughly the same time frame that has 'conventional' Kommodore markings in black outlined in white.
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