![]() |
|
Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies. |
![]() |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Possible PQ 16 Hunters:-
25-5-42 III/KG30 Polar See Unknown Ju88 A-4 140138 4D+IT FF Fw Martin Irrgang m B Ogef. Hans Recha m Bf Ogef Hans Muller m Bs Gef Heinrich Jungeland m 25-5-42 III/KG30 Polar See possibly due to AA Ju 88A-4 1456 4D+CR FF Ltn Arther Schbert m B Ogef Rudolf Geppert m Bf Ogef Karl Weber m Bs Uffz Franz Allweiler m 26-5-42 I/KG26 'H' Fl.PL. Banak crashed and burnt out He111 H-6 4817 Ff Uffz Helmut Walter + B Uffz Martin Barmutz + Bs Uffz Wilhelm Baugmann + Bf Uffz Georg Harger + 27-5-42 I/KG30 NordMeer ditched following AA fire Ju88 A-4 2061 4D+DH Ff Uffz Max Puryre m-+ B Uffz Kurt Heuer m-+ Bf Uffz Paul Zeschke m-+ Bs Uffz Ftefan Kuvanzs m-+ 27-5-42 I/KG30 Fl.Pl.Banak crash following AA fire Ju88 A-4 142073 Ff Oblt Friedich-August v.Starck + B Uffz Mathias Zilk + Bf Uffz Rikelaus Deindl + Bs Uffz Albert Beselt + Crew buried Botn-Rognan one site gives this as probaly own Flak 27-5-42 III/KG30 ditched following engine failure Ju88 A-4 1226 4D+ER Ff Ltn Horst Midke m B Uffz Heinrich Ludwig m Bf Ogef Alfred Stein m Bs Gef Konrad Rudigale m 27-5-43 I/Kg40 Jan Majen Island Enemy Fire Bf Ofw Friedrich Findeuisen + 28-5-42 1/KFGr.106 Crash by Kistrand on start He115C 3250 Ff Hptm Walter Staack + B Ltn Peter Kruse + Bf Fw Friedrich Ossenkopp + crew buried Botn-Rognan 30-5-42 I/KG30 Fl.Pl. Banak crashed on start Ju88 A-4 2068 Ff Ofw Fritz Muller + buried Botn-Rognan B Uffz Walter Bachmeister inj Bs Gef Karl Maier inj 30-5-42 II/KG30 Eismeer believed fell to fighters Ju88 A-4 4D+CM 1760 Ff Oblt. Siegfried Scharff m B Fw Herbert Wendt m Bf Gef Georg Tischler m Bs Obfahn Alfred Eromin m Source GQM and 'Deutsche Flieger unter dem Nordlicht' Regards Brian Bines NB another possibility on 25-5-42 is Fw200C 0080 of 3/KG40 crashed on T/O Varnes on combat mission Ff Ofw Wilhelm Lohmann and Bm Fw Erich Seifert killed plus 4 inj. |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Great stuff, Brian
Much to examine in some detail. There was more aerial action that I realised. Cheers Brian |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
"Possible PQ 16 Hunters:-
25-5-42 III/KG30 Polar See Unknown Ju88 A-4 140138 4D+IT FF Fw Martin Irrgang m B Ogef. Hans Recha m Bf Ogef Hans Muller m Bs Gef Heinrich Jungeland m" Not possible. The 140138 is known accepted 5 August 42, as built in July ! (I have put this as possibly W.Nr. 1238, and all 1380 to 1389 are known) - Ju 88 A-4 4D+IT III/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5) OPS (F) mis (100%) unk location (Polarmeer) [is belived shot down by RAF Hurricat of MSFU (F/O. Kendall) flying from british CAM ship ss EMPIRE HORN in the Barents Sea Arctic Ocean] 25.05.1942 (F Fw. Martin Irrgang, B Obgefr. Hans Bache, BF Obgefr. Hans Müller and BS Gefr. Heinrich Jungelaus missing) (rep A4 138 4D+IT in LWFLV losses; poss. 1238 ???) Last edited by edNorth; 1st February 2013 at 17:41. Reason: typo |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
(Other by B. Bines I agree on, no offence meant ;-) )
I have notes of one was possibly downed by "Hurricat" (catapult Hurricane) of CAM ship Empire Lawrence, possibly the 2061 (i.e. 0880142061 4D+DH) and one by Soviet Curtiss P-40 Warhawk. (088)1760 Ju 88 A-4 4D+CM 4./KG 30 (Luftflotte 5 West) OPS (F) belived downed by <enemy> fighter fire (Nordmeer) [over Arctic Ocean/Barentssea near Allied Convoy PQ.16: was downed by Soviet Air Force Curtiss P-40 Warhawk´s] 30.05.1942 (F Oblt. Sigfried Schapp <Sharprff>, B Fw. Herbert Wendt, BF Gefr. Georg Tischler and BS Sdfhr. Alfred Eromin missing) Best regards Ed |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Excellent, Ed
Many thanks ideed, we're making real progress now! Any ideas of identity/unit of the Russian P-40 pilot? Cheers Brian |
#16
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Addition. WASt has 1238 against GQM A-4 "138" on 25.05.1942
|
#17
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
|
#18
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
One more (turned up in another file):
(0880)142075 Ju 88 A-4 4D+XT III/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5 East) OPS (F) missing (100%) unk location (Nordmeer) [Arctic Ocean] 01.05.1942 (F Oblt. Reinhard Heise, Staffelkaptein B Hptm. Hans Hanke, BF Fw. Wilhelm Haffki and BS Obgfr. Alfred Jankowski missing) (rep A4 2075 in LWFLV losses) Last edited by edNorth; 1st February 2013 at 20:00. Reason: typo |
#19
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
edNorth, thanks for corrections always appreciated. A few more from GQM for consideration :-
1-5-42 I/KG26 'F' Fi.Pl.Bardufoss emergency landing Bremstoffmangel He 111 H-6 4952 15% 2-5-42 KFGr.906 Pl.Qu.1558/16west enemy fire Bf Ogef.Gunther Weise w. 4-5-42 III/KG30 Ju88A-4 Fl.Pl Bardufoss engine trouble 100% crew safe, Regards Brian Bines |
#20
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
B.Bines, I know, but usually very hard to "prove" (the errors), the case here seems simple, if one has the right info!
re III/ KG 30 Ju 88 here... (088)1020 Ju 88 A-4 III/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5) OPS (F) engine failures and crashed (100%) at Bardufoss Airfield [Norway] 04.05.1942 (crew uninjured) |
![]() |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe | Nick Beale | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 255 | 30th August 2021 23:38 |
Luftwaffe losses CD "Anglo-Deutsches Erinnerungs Gruppe" | David Pausey | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 38 | 10th June 2012 05:49 |
Luftwaffe Losses, 17 November 1940 | Steve Brew | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 7 | 31st May 2010 10:30 |
Luftwaffe Losses Revisited | tmoj2000 | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 5 | 7th May 2010 18:58 |
Luftwaffe bomber losses on Lentini raid, Aug. 1943. | Doug Norrie | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 0 | 22nd September 2008 03:11 |