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Old 1st February 2013, 10:15
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses

Possible PQ 16 Hunters:-

25-5-42 III/KG30 Polar See Unknown Ju88 A-4 140138 4D+IT
FF Fw Martin Irrgang m
B Ogef. Hans Recha m
Bf Ogef Hans Muller m
Bs Gef Heinrich Jungeland m

25-5-42 III/KG30 Polar See possibly due to AA Ju 88A-4 1456 4D+CR
FF Ltn Arther Schbert m
B Ogef Rudolf Geppert m
Bf Ogef Karl Weber m
Bs Uffz Franz Allweiler m

26-5-42 I/KG26 'H' Fl.PL. Banak crashed and burnt out He111 H-6 4817
Ff Uffz Helmut Walter +
B Uffz Martin Barmutz +
Bs Uffz Wilhelm Baugmann +
Bf Uffz Georg Harger +

27-5-42 I/KG30 NordMeer ditched following AA fire Ju88 A-4 2061 4D+DH
Ff Uffz Max Puryre m-+
B Uffz Kurt Heuer m-+
Bf Uffz Paul Zeschke m-+
Bs Uffz Ftefan Kuvanzs m-+

27-5-42 I/KG30 Fl.Pl.Banak crash following AA fire Ju88 A-4 142073
Ff Oblt Friedich-August v.Starck +
B Uffz Mathias Zilk +
Bf Uffz Rikelaus Deindl +
Bs Uffz Albert Beselt +
Crew buried Botn-Rognan one site gives this as probaly own Flak

27-5-42 III/KG30 ditched following engine failure Ju88 A-4 1226 4D+ER
Ff Ltn Horst Midke m
B Uffz Heinrich Ludwig m
Bf Ogef Alfred Stein m
Bs Gef Konrad Rudigale m

27-5-43 I/Kg40 Jan Majen Island Enemy Fire
Bf Ofw Friedrich Findeuisen +

28-5-42 1/KFGr.106 Crash by Kistrand on start He115C 3250
Ff Hptm Walter Staack +
B Ltn Peter Kruse +
Bf Fw Friedrich Ossenkopp +
crew buried Botn-Rognan

30-5-42 I/KG30 Fl.Pl. Banak crashed on start Ju88 A-4 2068
Ff Ofw Fritz Muller + buried Botn-Rognan
B Uffz Walter Bachmeister inj
Bs Gef Karl Maier inj

30-5-42 II/KG30 Eismeer believed fell to fighters Ju88 A-4 4D+CM 1760
Ff Oblt. Siegfried Scharff m
B Fw Herbert Wendt m
Bf Gef Georg Tischler m
Bs Obfahn Alfred Eromin m

Source GQM and 'Deutsche Flieger unter dem Nordlicht'

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Brian Bines

NB another possibility on 25-5-42 is Fw200C 0080 of 3/KG40 crashed on T/O Varnes on combat mission Ff Ofw Wilhelm Lohmann and Bm Fw Erich Seifert killed plus 4 inj.
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Old 1st February 2013, 17:22
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses

Great stuff, Brian

Much to examine in some detail.

There was more aerial action that I realised.

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Old 1st February 2013, 17:38
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses

"Possible PQ 16 Hunters:-

25-5-42 III/KG30 Polar See Unknown Ju88 A-4 140138 4D+IT
FF Fw Martin Irrgang m
B Ogef. Hans Recha m
Bf Ogef Hans Muller m
Bs Gef Heinrich Jungeland m"


Not possible. The 140138 is known accepted 5 August 42, as built in July !
(I have put this as possibly W.Nr. 1238, and all 1380 to 1389 are known)

- Ju 88 A-4 4D+IT III/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5)
OPS (F) mis (100%) unk location (Polarmeer) [is belived shot down by RAF Hurricat of MSFU (F/O. Kendall) flying from british CAM ship ss EMPIRE HORN in the Barents Sea Arctic Ocean] 25.05.1942 (F Fw. Martin Irrgang, B Obgefr. Hans Bache, BF Obgefr. Hans Müller and BS Gefr. Heinrich Jungelaus missing) (rep A4 138 4D+IT in LWFLV losses; poss. 1238 ???)

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Old 1st February 2013, 18:07
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses

(Other by B. Bines I agree on, no offence meant ;-) )
I have notes of one was possibly downed by "Hurricat" (catapult Hurricane) of CAM ship Empire Lawrence, possibly the 2061 (i.e. 0880142061 4D+DH) and one by Soviet Curtiss P-40 Warhawk.

(088)1760 Ju 88 A-4 4D+CM 4./KG 30 (Luftflotte 5 West)
OPS (F) belived downed by <enemy> fighter fire (Nordmeer) [over Arctic Ocean/Barentssea near Allied Convoy PQ.16: was downed by Soviet Air Force Curtiss P-40 Warhawk´s] 30.05.1942 (F Oblt. Sigfried Schapp <Sharprff>, B Fw. Herbert Wendt, BF Gefr. Georg Tischler and BS Sdfhr. Alfred Eromin missing)

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Old 1st February 2013, 18:19
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses

Excellent, Ed

Many thanks ideed, we're making real progress now!

Any ideas of identity/unit of the Russian P-40 pilot?

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Old 1st February 2013, 19:49
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses

Addition. WASt has 1238 against GQM A-4 "138" on 25.05.1942
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Old 1st February 2013, 19:58
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses

Here's a book about PQ8:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1848840519?...2Ftitle%2F2365



Usual disclaimer,
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Old 1st February 2013, 19:59
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses

One more (turned up in another file):
(0880)142075 Ju 88 A-4 4D+XT III/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5 East)
OPS (F) missing (100%) unk location (Nordmeer) [Arctic Ocean] 01.05.1942 (F Oblt. Reinhard Heise, Staffelkaptein B Hptm. Hans Hanke, BF Fw. Wilhelm Haffki and BS Obgfr. Alfred Jankowski missing) (rep A4 2075 in LWFLV losses)

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Old 1st February 2013, 21:22
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses

edNorth, thanks for corrections always appreciated. A few more from GQM for consideration :-

1-5-42 I/KG26 'F' Fi.Pl.Bardufoss emergency landing Bremstoffmangel He
111 H-6 4952 15%

2-5-42 KFGr.906 Pl.Qu.1558/16west enemy fire Bf Ogef.Gunther Weise w.

4-5-42 III/KG30 Ju88A-4 Fl.Pl Bardufoss engine trouble 100% crew safe,

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Old 2nd February 2013, 01:45
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses

B.Bines, I know, but usually very hard to "prove" (the errors), the case here seems simple, if one has the right info!
re III/ KG 30 Ju 88 here...

(088)1020 Ju 88 A-4 III/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5)
OPS (F) engine failures and crashed (100%) at Bardufoss Airfield [Norway] 04.05.1942 (crew uninjured)
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