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Old 8th May 2008, 16:11
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Innsbruck Hötting Airfield Aerial View

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I am looking for a wartime aerial photo of Innsbruck Hötting airfield. Does anybody have such a photo or does know which archive might have one?

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Old 8th May 2008, 21:55
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Re: Innsbruck Hötting Airfield Aerial View

I've never seen one Roger, but I would be quite excited to see one.
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Old 8th May 2008, 22:39
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Re: Innsbruck Hötting Airfield Aerial View

There definitely was a photo since I have a description of the Innsbruck airfields in a report from Kew (reference not to hand) and that refers to photos. Innsbruck (i.e. Innsbruck-Ost) was photographed on 31 January 1944, -West on 3 October 1943. Maybe Keele University has them?

The description of -West says (dated 12 April 1944) there were no organised dispersal facilities and that accommodation was "2 small huts on the N. boundary."

CO-ORDINATES: 47º 15' 35" N, 11º 21' 00" E.

Location: 2½ miles W. INNSBRÜCK [sic], immediately S. of the INNSBRÜCK/TELFS road. The River INN, flowing ½ mile S. of the Landing Ground, should afford good landmark.

Dimensions: Levelling work has progressed since 3.10.43, the approx. dimensions being 1,000 yds. E/W, 300 yds. N/S.

Surface: Appears rough and unserviceable.

… An overhead H/T line [visible in the photos of those boring old Me 262s] skirts the S. boundary and passes the SW. corner allowing a clear E/W. run only on the N. side of the L/G.

West is now the site of the international airport.
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Old 9th May 2008, 08:58
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Re: Innsbruck Hötting Airfield Aerial View

TY Neal, great info. I know that the two small huts were actually hangers for civilian aircraft. The 262's were scattered through the area, and I'd love to eventually map their locations.
I vaguely recall seeing a website once on the history of the small airport there.
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Re: Innsbruck Hötting Airfield Aerial View

Hi Dan and Nick,

Interesting! Thanks a lot for that information.

I have attached a google-map photo with some rough indications where some Me 262 were. I haven't studied this in detail, so Dan, you probably have a much more accurate idea where these Me 262 were.

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Old 9th May 2008, 11:06
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Re: Innsbruck Hötting Airfield Aerial View

PS: I count 11 different Me 262. The photos of the group at the SW of the airfield was probably taken later as some of these Me 262 were photographed at a different location (e.g. 111712, White 12, etc.).

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Re: Innsbruck Hötting Airfield Aerial View

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TY Neal, great info. I know that the two small huts were actually hangers for civilian aircraft. The 262's were scattered through the area, and I'd love to eventually map their locations.
1. Who's Neal?

2. I did once start a rough sketch the locations of the Ju 87s and Fw 190s (from NSG 9, a unit that actually contributed something to the German war effort!). Step 1, buy a large scale map of the Innsbruck area - mine was aimed at hikers. The river bend is a fixed point of reference; the Innsbruck-Telfs road seems to follow its old line and can be seen on some of the old photos; there is a church on a hill top in the background (across the river) which gives another reference point. Better yet, the power line is still marked on the map, although surely it can't still be overhead, can it?
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Re: Innsbruck Hötting Airfield Aerial View

There will be images of this airfield preserved in the US National Archives, and probably in the former Royal Air Force Overseas Print Library (once at Keele, but now under -one hopes- effective management at RCAHMS in Scotland. There will also probably be something in the L section reports in AIR34, or AIR 29. Prints may well be attached to the relevant report.
I will be in the US National Archives next week and if I have a spare moment I will have a look.

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Re: Innsbruck Hötting Airfield Aerial View

[quote=Nick Beale;65602]1. Who's Neal?

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Ooops! Sorry Nick, it was quite late, and perhaps a few too many "research enhancing" beers!
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Roger, per your map, we have a number of clues. The large mountains behind 857, the small hill on the other side of the valley. Sun angle on the shadows of photos of 590 (?) help as well.
Hi Dan, yes, you are right. The small hill with the building on top of it is a very good reference. There is also a church at the bottom of that hill that can be seen in some photos.

The location of 113371 are is still a mistery for me. 113371 was found in front of a big (half burnt) building


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I did once start a rough sketch the locations of the Ju 87s and Fw 190s (from NSG 9, a unit that actually contributed something to the German war effort!). ...
Better yet, the power line is still marked on the map, although surely it can't still be overhead, can it?
Nick, would it be possible to share the map and the locations of the Ju 87 and Fw 190s? It is very interesting that the power line is still marked on the map. That would help a lot.

Behind WkNr. 111712 (before it was apparently moved to the "Me 262 collection point" in the South West) I can see two Ju 87 (JV44, Forsyth, P.300). The power lines are visible in the background. 111712 is pointing towards East and is South of today's landing strip. Looking towards North there is a building just behind 111712.

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I will be in the US National Archives next week and if I have a spare moment I will have a look.
Hi Chris, thanks a lot for the information about where one might be able to find aerial photos! That would be great if you could check if there is anything about Innsbruck when you are at the US National Archives!

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