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Recon. losses July 1940
Are crew details available for two Do17Ps of 2(F)/123 missing on 7-7-40, and for the He111 of 1(F)/120 shot down (602 Sqd?) near the Firth of Forth on 8-7-1940. I understand Ltns Nest and Vedder were in one of the Dorniers and the Heinkel included photo expert Ltn. Bank ,
Thanks Brian Bines |
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Re: Recon. losses July 1940
I believe there is a Swedish book on the Battle of Britain that is due to be published in English, does anyone know if it will contain detailed loss lists that would answer queries like this,
Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: Recon. losses July 1940
I have details on the 120 loss but am tied up for the next few days. As to the Swedish book, I would not hold your breath as there are a few problems!
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Re: Recon. losses July 1940
Here are the details you require Brian,
2.(F)/123 Dornier Do17P. Shot down by S/L J. R. A. Peel and P/O E. C. J. Wakeham of Yellow Section No. 145 Squadron 20 miles south-west of The Needles 5.30 a.m. during reconnaissance sortie over Portland - Isle of Wight - Cherbourg. (Ff) Fw Walter Plotzitzka killed, (Beo) Fw Rudolf Scherzinger and (Bf) Uffz Richard Storch both missing. Aircraft 4U+KK 100% write-off. Walter Plotzitzka was later washed ashore in France and is buried at Bourdon. 2.(F)/123 Dornier Do17P. Shot down by S/L The Hon. J. W. M. Aitken and F/O W. P. Clyde of No. 601 Squadron 15 miles off Cherbourg during reconnaissance sortie to Bournemouth and Lyme Regis 10.26 a.m. (Ff) Lt Hans-Joachim Nest, (Beo) Lt Bernhard Vedder, and (Bf) Uffz Friedrich-Wilhelm Elicker all missing. Aircraft 4U+FK 100% write-off. Bernd Vedder was later washed ashore in Belgium and is buried at Lommel. 1.(F)/120 Heinkel He111H-2. Engaged east-south-east of St Abbs Head by Green Section of No. 602 Squadron reconnaissance sortie to the Firth of Forth and port engine set alight under attack by F/O P. C. Webb 7.35 p.m. Crashed in the North Sea. (Ff) Fw Rudolf Zöphel, (Beo) Lt Werner Bank (Staffelbildoffizier), and (Bm) Uffz Erich Kuhn killed. (Bf) Fw Kurt Goldau and (Bs) Uffz Erich Rentschler both missing. Aircraft 100% write-off. Rudolf Zöphel was later washed ashore on the island of Amrum and is buried in Westerland along with Werner Bank. Erich Kuhn came ashore at Spiekeroog and is buried at Wangerooge. |
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Re: Recon. losses July 1940
Chris, thanks I did put in an advanced order for the English edition of the book last year but was then told the order was cancelled due to problems.
Peter, Thank you very much for the detailed info. on these losses, now WAST do not give out info. this is really appreciated, Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: Recon. losses July 1940
Guys
The Swedish book is surely Bergström's Luftstrid över Kanalen (Air battle over the Channel), and to put in a quick review I must say it basically follows the traditional books about the Battle, except that it gives much more room for the German side, which also goes for the photo coverage. The book itself is good but suffers from an incredibly bad proof reading. It has NO daily listings of losses from either side Cheers Stig |
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