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				1943 RAF Casualty help wanted
			 1211171 Sergeant (Pilot) Thomas Baker Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve was killed on 22 September 1943 aged 22  he was the son of Arthur and Alice Baker of Corby, Northamptonshire and now rests in my local town Cemetery. Can anyone tell me anything about the circumstances of his death and are the names of the other crew involved known. Regards Nigel | 
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				Re: 1943 RAF Casualty help wanted
			 From the CWGC record it looks as if you mistyped the date: Name: BAKER, THOMAS Initials: T Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Sergeant (Pilot) Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve Age: 22 Date of Death: 20/09/1943 Service No: 1211171 Additional information: Son of Arthur and Alice Baker, of Corby. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Row 62. Grave 7. Cemetery: CORBY CEMETERY As no Squadron is given, perhaps he was still under training, conducting an air test or navigation exercise. Geoff's Search Engine produces 27 RAF deaths that day, with A Bracey; AW Foster and JJ Fox (and probably others) being potential other men. I'm sure someone will be along with better info | 
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				Re: 1943 RAF Casualty help wanted
			 Sgt. Baker is listed in 'Flight' 2 December 1943 as 'Killed On Active Service' which means that he died as a result of an accident or something similar whilst engaged on operational duties. Thus, if a person was killed on a training sortie, or a flight not engaged in operations against the enemy that would be classed as KOAS. | 
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				Re: 1943 RAF Casualty help wanted
			 20 September 1943 1485 Flight Wellington X HE350 Op. Training P/O. W G. Baker inj Sgt. J. Pemberton inj Sgt. A. Kirkman inj P/O. R A. Baker DFC + Sgt. T C. Newton inj Sgt.A. Bracey + Sgt. T. Baker + Took off 1537 hrs Skellingthorpe for air gunnery training but as the Wellington gained height both motors cut. Unable to turn back the pilot crash landed at 1540 hrs two to three miles NW of the runway. At least three were admitted to RAF HospitalRaucebyy.Sgts Pembertonn.Kirkman and Newton had been attached from 1654 HCU, while P/O. Baker was serving with 50 squadron. Details of his commission had been Gazetted on 15 June 1943 with promulgation of his DFC appeared in the London Gazette on 16 November of that same year. From Ferriby in Yorkshire he lies in Cleethorpes Cemetery. His namesake, Sgt. Baker was taken to Corby Cemetery, while Sgt. Bracey rests at Burton-on- Trent Cemetery. BCL Vol.8 - W R. Chorley Hope this helps Regards Peter | 
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				Re: 1943 RAF Casualty help wanted
			 Thanks for replying Peter, you have told me everything i wanted to know. Can i just double check something - you listed 3 bakers in that crew making a total of 7 onboard instead of the standard 6 - is this correct. Regards Nigel Also thanks to Icare9 for taking the time to respond | 
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				Re: 1943 RAF Casualty help wanted
			 Nigel I can confirm that there were three Bakers on the crew list and that the total crew = seven. As it was a training flight, maybe the seventh crew member was an instructor? Regards Peter Last edited by Peter Clare; 2nd January 2010 at 01:49. | 
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				Re: 1943 RAF Casualty help wanted
			 Many thanks Peter, I own the single war medal to the Corby casualty and wanted to know the details of his death I looked up the survivors on the CWGC only to find Sgt. T C. Newton died in another accident in 1944. All the best Nigel | 
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